Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2022/06/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jaynard.... My dilemma has EVERYTHING to do the Leica Monochrom and the Sandisk Extreme Pro cards I usually use. ( and of which I have about 700GB worth vs roughly 100GB of Transcend SD Cards of the correct, working type.) And NOTHING to do with any other camera or memory card or combination thereof. I did not address that issue. It was real, It was an M9 type Monochrom.? It was a Sandisk Extreme Pro 32GB memory card.? The Transcend 16GB and 32GB cards work just fine. I do realize this is old technology.... sort of like using film, in a Leica IIIc, and Tri-X. The thing is that "in the old days" any film worked in any camera.? For a while, in the early digital age, that was not true. Frank Filippone BMWRed735i at Gmail.com On 6/5/2022 3:44 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote: > This has nothing to do with whether Sandisk does or does not work with > Leica digital bodies because I have no experience of that. I have never had > any problem with Sandisk SD cards in the past, whether UHS or UHS II, but > the only warning I wish to give about Sandisk is about their Compact Flash > Express (B) cards - they are slow and run very hot with burst shooting or > video, therefore are rubbish and highly avoidable. The best/fastest CFE (B) > cards come in new flavours - Delkin Black, Prograde Cobalt and Angelbird AV > Pro Mark II - the last mentioned even has firmware updates to the card to > improve performance. These cards are eye wateringly expensive so it is > important to buy the right cards at the outset when you need them. That is > the only function of this post, targeted at those who also shoot Nikon, > Fuji or Canon mirrorless offerings along with their Leica systems. Sony > uses the slower CFE (A) cards, but it is only a matter of time that they > migrate to CFE (B) cards as well. > > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 1:14 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> > wrote: > >> The only digital Leica I have ever had is the M8. But my point was that I >> have used the same cards in several other cameras. >> >> Cheers, >> Nathan >> >> Nathan Wajsman >> photo at frozenlight.eu >> >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> >> YNWA >> >> >> >> >>> On 5 Jun 2022, at 21:21, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Have you ever used Sandisk in an M9 or CCD Monochrom? They do not >> always work in them, I used Transcend and currently Lexar... >>> john >>> >>> ?On 05/06/2022, 19:34, "LUG on behalf of Nathan Wajsman" >> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of >> photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: >>> YMMV is the word here. I have used Sandisk, and only Sandisk, for >> many years. In Leica, Panasonic (various models), Fuji (various models), >> Ricoh GR?in all of them without any problems, ever. >>> Cheers, >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> photo at frozenlight.eu >>> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> >>> YNWA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 5 Jun 2022, at 18:25, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at >>>> leica-users.org> >> wrote: >>>> Maybe, but my Sony cards would not work in my Monochrom. ( and yes, my >> fastest cards are Sony, and they work equally well in my Nikon D7100 and >> Sony A7, A7rii, and M240.....!) >>>> It is not an issue of bulletproof.... the card is not the problem.... >> The original EE designer is the problem..... >>>> In the early digital age,and especially the early Leica M8/M9 age, it >> appears that Leica (and others) teamed up with a vendor and then designed >> the camera to work with the electrical specs of THAT vendor. Other vendors >> cards had slightly different specs and therefore would not work. All the >> cars met the Standard, but had slightly different specs..... so designing >> to the specific vendor card specs was a BIG mistake for us consumers. >>>> Ever wonder WHY there is a recommended memory card list for an older >> camera? Re-read the above..... THAT is why. >>>> In the subsequent years, people complained, camera companies looked >> like idiots, card makers got tired of the nonsense, and new cameras were >> designed using the STANDARDS for SD cards.... Yes, the least common >> denominator specs. All the cards worked.... which makes consumer sense... >>>> The difference is in the specific vendor electrical specs vs the least >> common denominator standards specs.... and which you design to. >>>> Nowadays, it is all but a memory. In new cameras, all cards work. >>>> >>>> But, in using older cameras, you forget the old rules, and stick the >> wrong BRAND and MODEL of card in your OLD camera..... >>>> I bought some old Transcend cards from EBay yesterday..... want to be >> sure I can keep the Monochrom running...... >>>> And I am going to put a sticker inside the bottom plate telling me to >> use my Transcend cards only..... because I know I will forget again..... >>>> >>>> Frank Filippone >>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com >>>> On 6/5/2022 5:59 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote: >>>>> I don't know how they do in Leica, but Sony Tough sd cards are >> bulletproof. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sonny >>>>> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/> >>>>> Natchitoches, Louisiana >>>>> 1714 >>>>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase >>>>> >>>>> USA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 10:26 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> >> wrote: >>>>>> Surprised they lasted this long, I only had my M9 a few months before >> I >>>>>> had to move to Transcend cards from Sandisk.... >>>>>> >>>>>> john >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/06/2022, 21:28, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG" >>>>>> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of >>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My precious Monochrom ( M9 Based Digi-Leica) would not accept a >> memory >>>>>> card. Just kept telling me that there was no SD card installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried a bunch of other cards. No luck. At this point I saw a >> BIG >>>>>> repair bill coming my way..... >>>>>> >>>>>> Did a Google search of ... Leica M9 SD Card Problems.... All the >>>>>> articles were old ( well, what do you expect given the camera is old?) >>>>>> >>>>>> Three solutions were offered at that time...... a) contacts on >> camera >>>>>> or card were "dirty".... Clean them b) Bad memory card or card reader >> in >>>>>> the >>>>>> camera ( what I feared) and finally, c) In the beginning of the >>>>>> M9, >>>>>> there were some issues with certain cards not working.... Leica >> chimed in >>>>>> and said >>>>>> they knew about the problem, towards a fix. >>>>>> >>>>>> The cards were mostly Sandisk.... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the cards I was trying were all Sandisk, Extreme Pro.... I >> had >>>>>> 64GB, 32GB, 128GB..... none had worked. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did have a pair of Transcend 32GB cards..... tried one and it >> worked >>>>>> perfectly. >>>>>> >>>>>> The message to leave everyone with.... if your camera acts up,, >> Google >>>>>> the problem... and follow the solutions offered. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would have expected Leica to fix the incompatibility years ago, >> but >>>>>> nope..... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What did we do before the Internet? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> B+W anyone? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Frank Filippone >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information