[Leica] Harvey Greenberg

[hlritter at bex.net (Howard L Ritter Jr)]

Hi, Tina?

I?m sorry to hear that. I?m not a portraitist, but I like to think of 
photographers (especially Leicanauts) as being a cut above in terms of 
sophistication and worldliness, like LUGgers in general. It ain?t 
necessarily so!

I suspect what you?re seeing is part of the larger phenomenon of patriarchy 
and outright toxic masculinity that seems to pervade the online aspects of 
many male-dominated pursuits, computer gaming and coding being the worst 
according to what I?ve read. 

I agree with your final sentiment. Social media and instant communication, 
filtration, feedback, and outrage amplification are the reasons why when 
Earth gets visited by aliens, if there?s still a human race, they?ll tell us 
?Kill your internet!? AI is poised to take over social media and political 
advertising and discourse, and probably all forms of art as well. Humanity 
has created and loosed something that it is too disorganized and focused on 
instant gratification (thanks, evolution!) to be willing to take control of.

Happy shooting!

?howard

> On May 7, 2023, at 2:58 PM, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> LUG:
> 
> Do any of you know him??  He is the administrator, along with Luigi
> Vaccaro, of the Leica Portrait Face Book Group.  He was just very insulting
> to me, posting a cheesecake-type photo just to "Piss Tina Manley off" - his
> words.  I quit the group - again.
> 
> Is there any Leica portrait group that actually features portraits taken
> with Leica cameras and not cheap, cheesecake photos taken by old, white men
> with expensive cameras taking advantage of young Asian girls who want to be
> models??
> 
> I am tired and discouraged.  The World Is Going to Hell.
> 
> Tina