Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2021/07/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Oriental Seagull is apparently made for the Japanese market by Harmann. It is hard to get outside Japan. There is a reasonable list of extant film manufacturers here: https://wiki2.org/en/Photographic_film#In_production We just went into a Level 5 response (basically lockdown) so I have time to think before I do anything. On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 7:45 pm, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Hi Marty, > > Plus X was my favorite film, unfortunately it is not more available, I?ve > shoot my last Plus X films I think in 2014. Three years ago I?ve used > Eastman Double XX, it works well at ISO 250, acceptable grain, the B&W is > nice but in my opinion it is a film with more contrast and more grain than > Plus X, I?ve developed it with X-Tol 1:1 and 1:3, but I?ve not tried D-23 > or D-76. The film I?ve tested and I loved the results was Oriental Seagull, > it is or was available in ISO 100 and 400 developed in D-23 1:1, it was > excellent but it is a film hard to find, I don?t remember where I?ve > purchased it, I remember it was in e-Bay, I think you can find it in Buyee, > I?ve read somewhere that it was manufactured by Hartmann? I do not > understand if Hartman made this film for selling only in China, HK? In my > opinion there are only a few film manufacturers in the World and many > commercial brand names have the same origin: Kodak, Ilford (Hartman), Fuji, > Adox, Foma. The photographic paper is still worst, there is a while Adox > don?t deliver FB paper, Oriental Seagull is available only in Japan and > very expensive, Ilford is in my opinion the only good surviver, and Foma if > you like it. > > Lluis > > > El 15 jul 2021, a les 7:07, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at > > leica-users.org> > va escriure: > > > > I haven't used Bergger Pancro 120, only 35mm. Ilford HP5 always looked > the > > same to me in all formats, but I haven't used it or any other Ilford film > > in over 10 years. > > > > Foma, yes. I have noticed substantial differences when I look at the > > negatives with a microscope. But it is hard to tell if it is due to > > handling, fogging due to plastic wrap vs a cassette, a huge number of > > variations. > > > > I will need to think about this soon; my stash of Plus-X is coming to an > > end (sad). I may just buy 1,000 feet of Eastman XX, but I am not sure. > > > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 7:49 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG < > lug at leica-users.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Marty, > >> > >> Lately I have found that the quality of various brands of film is not > the > >> same in 35 mm format as in 120 mm, to unsuspected levels of significant > >> differences in grain, emulsion, veil. The brands that I have been able > to > >> verify big differences are Bergger, Ilford HP5, Foma 400, all these > have a > >> good quality in 120, however not in 35mm, moreover, I would even say > that > >> they are very similar if you look at them with a good magnifying glass > of > >> 10x or more and I have the suspicion that it could be that they were > made > >> by the same manufacturer. What do you think about it? > >> > >> Best! > >> Lluis > >> > >>> El 13 jul 2021, a les 5:26, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at > >>> leica-users.org > > > >> va escriure: > >>> > >>>> I?ve get good results with Foma 400 E.I. 250, 120 format, developed in > >>>> D-76 1:1 at 21?C 10? 50?, agitation the first 30? and 4 inversions > >> every > >>>> minute. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Yes, Foma 400 in 120 is nice but you can treat it completely > differently > >> to > >>> 35mm. This is 120 Foma 400 in Xtol: > >>> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Portraits/File0966.jpg.html > >>> > >>> Plenty of nice 35mm examples in the thread at RFF: > >>> > >> > https://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92200&highlight=kentmere+400 > >>> > >>> Kentmere 400 + ilfotec DD-X - grain-free and a bit mushy. Looks like > >>>> Eastman XX. Since Eastman XX is half the speed of Kentmere 400 and > twice > >>>> the price, there is no reason to buy Eastman XX in 35mm format. > >>> > >>> > >>> These films are all a bit soft - coarse grain and mushy edges. I think > >>> HC-110 works really well because of all the strong developing agents > and > >>> strong restrainers. I like Eastman XX because it scratches less > >>> easily, but I have always found that with Kodak vs Ilford films. > >>> > >>> Marty > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information