Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2021/07/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thank you Marty! It?s interesting, if you can test the Oriental film I would like know your opinion, I?ve found this: To Buy https://showa-store.com/products/seagull-oriental-400-35mm Comments: https://toivonenphoto.com/blog/2018/1/5/budapest-oriental-seagull-400-in-d76-11 https://www.filmshooterscollective.com/analog-film-photography-blog/under-the-radar-oriental-seagull-400-renato-repetto-10-10 Cheers Lluis > El 21 jul 2021, a les 11:11, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> va escriure: > > Oriental Seagull is apparently made for the Japanese market by Harmann. It > is hard to get outside Japan. > > There is a reasonable list of extant film manufacturers here: > https://wiki2.org/en/Photographic_film#In_production > We just went into a Level 5 response (basically lockdown) so I have time to > think before I do anything. > > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 at 7:45 pm, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> Hi Marty, >> >> Plus X was my favorite film, unfortunately it is not more available, I?ve >> shoot my last Plus X films I think in 2014. Three years ago I?ve used >> Eastman Double XX, it works well at ISO 250, acceptable grain, the B&W is >> nice but in my opinion it is a film with more contrast and more grain than >> Plus X, I?ve developed it with X-Tol 1:1 and 1:3, but I?ve not tried D-23 >> or D-76. The film I?ve tested and I loved the results was Oriental >> Seagull, >> it is or was available in ISO 100 and 400 developed in D-23 1:1, it was >> excellent but it is a film hard to find, I don?t remember where I?ve >> purchased it, I remember it was in e-Bay, I think you can find it in >> Buyee, >> I?ve read somewhere that it was manufactured by Hartmann? I do not >> understand if Hartman made this film for selling only in China, HK? In my >> opinion there are only a few film manufacturers in the World and many >> commercial brand names have the same origin: Kodak, Ilford (Hartman), >> Fuji, >> Adox, Foma. The photographic paper is still worst, there is a while Adox >> don?t deliver FB paper, Oriental Seagull is available only in Japan and >> very expensive, Ilford is in my opinion the only good surviver, and Foma >> if >> you like it. >> >> Lluis >> >>> El 15 jul 2021, a les 7:07, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at >>> leica-users.org> >> va escriure: >>> >>> I haven't used Bergger Pancro 120, only 35mm. Ilford HP5 always looked >> the >>> same to me in all formats, but I haven't used it or any other Ilford film >>> in over 10 years. >>> >>> Foma, yes. I have noticed substantial differences when I look at the >>> negatives with a microscope. But it is hard to tell if it is due to >>> handling, fogging due to plastic wrap vs a cassette, a huge number of >>> variations. >>> >>> I will need to think about this soon; my stash of Plus-X is coming to an >>> end (sad). I may just buy 1,000 feet of Eastman XX, but I am not sure. >>> >>> Marty >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 7:49 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG < >> lug at leica-users.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marty, >>>> >>>> Lately I have found that the quality of various brands of film is not >> the >>>> same in 35 mm format as in 120 mm, to unsuspected levels of significant >>>> differences in grain, emulsion, veil. The brands that I have been able >> to >>>> verify big differences are Bergger, Ilford HP5, Foma 400, all these >> have a >>>> good quality in 120, however not in 35mm, moreover, I would even say >> that >>>> they are very similar if you look at them with a good magnifying glass >> of >>>> 10x or more and I have the suspicion that it could be that they were >> made >>>> by the same manufacturer. What do you think about it? >>>> >>>> Best! >>>> Lluis >>>> >>>>> El 13 jul 2021, a les 5:26, Marty Deveney via LUG <lug at >>>>> leica-users.org >>> >>>> va escriure: >>>>> >>>>>> I?ve get good results with Foma 400 E.I. 250, 120 format, developed in >>>>>> D-76 1:1 at 21?C 10? 50?, agitation the first 30? and 4 inversions >>>> every >>>>>> minute. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes, Foma 400 in 120 is nice but you can treat it completely >> differently >>>> to >>>>> 35mm. This is 120 Foma 400 in Xtol: >>>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/freakscene/Portraits/File0966.jpg.html >>>>> >>>>> Plenty of nice 35mm examples in the thread at RFF: >>>>> >>>> >> https://rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92200&highlight=kentmere+400 >>>>> >>>>> Kentmere 400 + ilfotec DD-X - grain-free and a bit mushy. Looks like >>>>>> Eastman XX. Since Eastman XX is half the speed of Kentmere 400 and >> twice >>>>>> the price, there is no reason to buy Eastman XX in 35mm format. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> These films are all a bit soft - coarse grain and mushy edges. I think >>>>> HC-110 works really well because of all the strong developing agents >> and >>>>> strong restrainers. I like Eastman XX because it scratches less >>>>> easily, but I have always found that with Kodak vs Ilford films. >>>>> >>>>> Marty >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information