Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2025/08/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Peter, Sure. Get in touch by email at jayanand at gmail.com or on Whatsapp @ +91 9840038516. IMHO, it is impossible to replicate a screen image onto a print exactly - we view one through a backlight, and one via reflected light, and the quality and brightness of room lighting matters a lot on how a print would look. Critical viewing of prints is normally done under light of 1500-2000 lux, with bulbs emitting at D50 (daylight) temperature at a CRI of 95+. A normal living room where we hang prints is, by comparison only at 100-150 lux intensity, with bulbs that are all over the place as far as the other parameters are concerned. I would, therefore,concentrate more on how the print will actually look in the place it is to hang, and, therefore viewed, as a more practical consideration. If you want a brighter image, a simple way is to choose papers that have "Bright/Pure White" in their title, and totally avoid those that have the word "Natural" - the latter means a warmer coloured paper. Examples to look at would be Canson Arches BFK Rives Pure White or Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Bright White, both Matte papers. There are a lot of choices in the Baryta/Semigloss category. Be warned, though, the whiteness in paper is frequently achieved by adding OBA (Optical Brightening Agents) to the coating, which breaks down in time and reduces the longevity of the paper somewhat. I do not bother about it if it is infused in small/moderate quantities at all, and I do not think you should as well. Cheers Jayanand On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 2:09?PM Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote: > Jayanand, > > I wasn't going to say too much about the PJ papers, but since you raise > the subject of paper: PJ chose the papers that they thought would render > it best but they weren't able to get very close to my screen image; > nothing seemed bright enough across the whole range of greys. TO be > fair, I did take it along as a hard test. > > I'm interested in Canson paper. I have several A2 prints done by pros on > Canson and to my eye - and the printer's - they seem brighter and > "cleaner" than HM. (I hear stories of 15%+ price hikes on HM coming down > the line). Of course it is is always a case of which paper/manufacturer > for which image and how you intend to render it. > > Thanks for the comment on the appearance of my images; nobody else has > commented. > > I'd like to discuss that further with you; can we take that offline? > > Peter > > On 16/08/2025 04:15, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote: > > If you want to push the envelope still further, try printing on different > > papers. I am testing Canson papers at the present moment, and I am busy > > printing the same prints on 6 different Canson and Hahnemuhle paper > stocks > > in order to compare the results between themselves in order to choose one > > baryta (semigloss) and one each of smooth and textured fine art matte > paper > > for printing for an upcoming exhibition of my recent works in November. > > > > The results will astonish you in the variations, more so if you use a RIP > > for printing that will coax out a lot more shadow detail. > > > > Just an aside, FWIW - all the B&W photos you post are totally flat on my > > calibrated, professional quality monitor, in a room with a precise 60 > > lumens of D50 light falling in the viewing area. There is no white point, > > no black point, just a uniform sea of mid grey. > > > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 12:18?AM Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at > > summaventures.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Dear All, > >> > >> This post is all about different photographer's perception of images. > >> > >> I went along to a PermaJet printing workshop today. I took this along to > >> be printed > >> > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> This corresponds to my original vision. > >> > >> Several of us got into a discussion about "hidden images". Square > >> cropping was the most discussed. > >> > >> The pictures below are *my* interpretation of people's suggestions, all > >> of which reveal slightly different (hidden) images. The original > >> suggestions were cropped with bits of paper around the PJ print. > >> > >> The first square crop is the basic hidden image: > >> > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2_Cropped_Square_1.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> Second variation - a tighter crop: > >> > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2_Cropped_Square_2.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> thirdly, still tighter: > >> > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2_Cropped_Square_3.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> I liked the original very much, the original crop was a revelation. The > >> others almost show further hidden images. > >> > >> What do you think? Would you do something else, or nothing beyond the > >> original. > >> > >> > >> Thanks for looking and as ever your C&Cs are much appreciated. > >> > >> Peter > >> -- > >> > >> Dr. Peter Dzwig > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- > Dr. Peter Dzwig > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information