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Subject: [Leica] It's your choice!
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 09:38:56 +0100
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Jayanand,

I wasn't going to say too much about the PJ papers, but since you raise 
the subject of paper: PJ chose the papers that they thought would render 
it best but they weren't able to get very close to my screen image; 
nothing seemed bright enough across the whole range of greys. TO be 
fair, I did take it along as a hard test.

I'm interested in Canson paper. I have several A2 prints done by pros on 
Canson and to my eye - and the printer's - they seem brighter and 
"cleaner" than HM. (I hear stories of 15%+ price hikes on HM coming down 
the line). Of course it is is always a case of which paper/manufacturer 
for which image and how you intend to render it.

Thanks for the comment on the appearance of my images; nobody else has 
commented.

I'd like to discuss that further with you; can we take that offline?

Peter

On 16/08/2025 04:15, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote:
> If you want to push the envelope still further, try printing on different
> papers. I am testing Canson papers at the present moment, and I am busy
> printing the same prints on 6 different Canson and Hahnemuhle paper stocks
> in order to compare the results between themselves in order to choose one
> baryta (semigloss) and one each of smooth and textured fine art matte paper
> for printing for an upcoming exhibition of my recent works in November.
> 
> The results will astonish you in the variations, more so if you use a RIP
> for printing that will coax out a lot more shadow detail.
> 
> Just an aside, FWIW - all the B&W photos you post are totally flat on my
> calibrated, professional quality monitor, in a room with a precise 60
> lumens of D50 light falling in the viewing area. There is no white point,
> no black point, just a uniform sea of mid grey.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 12:18?AM Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>>
>> This post is all about different photographer's perception of images.
>>
>> I went along to a PermaJet printing workshop today. I took this along to
>> be printed
>>
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2.jpg.html
>>>
>>
>> This corresponds to my original vision.
>>
>> Several of us got into a discussion about "hidden images". Square
>> cropping was the most discussed.
>>
>> The pictures below are *my* interpretation of people's suggestions, all
>> of which reveal slightly different (hidden) images. The original
>> suggestions were cropped with bits of paper around the PJ print.
>>
>> The first square crop is the basic hidden image:
>>
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2_Cropped_Square_1.jpg.html
>>>
>>
>> Second variation - a tighter crop:
>>
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2_Cropped_Square_2.jpg.html
>>>
>>
>> thirdly, still tighter:
>>
>> <
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/Bosham_2025/Bosham_Piles_2_Cropped_Square_3.jpg.html
>>>
>>
>> I liked the original very much, the original crop was a revelation. The
>> others almost show further hidden images.
>>
>> What do you think? Would you do something else, or nothing beyond the
>> original.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for looking and as ever your C&Cs are much appreciated.
>>
>> Peter
>> --
>>
>> Dr. Peter Dzwig
>>
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