Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2023/04/18

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Subject: [Leica] LR Denoise
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 08:23:22 +0530
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Just tried the same three programs out just now, with a couple of additions
- the Topaz Photo AI Deenoise module as well as the "Noiseless" module in
Luminar Neo.

My impression is that DXO PureRAW 3 is still the way to go, as it can now
be used from within Lightroom, and that is what I propose to keep using on
high ISO images.

The Lightroom module gives a result similar to Topaz DeNoise - given the
name, I wonder whether Adobe has licensed it from Topaz, but as Don
mentioned, it is noticeably slower. Luminar Neo's "Noiseless" module is
still a terrific contender for those who have the primary program.

I have recently found that the Denoise and the Sharpen modules in Topaz
Photo AI give marginally better results than the stand alone programs -
though not to the extent that would be readily noticeable in the real world
(i.e. only noticeable on pixel peeping!). Topaz seems to be concentrating
its development on Photo AI, so maybe it is not too surprising.

The final cut is that the differences between the output of all these
methods is marginal, and unlikely to be noticeable even on a large print,
so my advice is to just keep using what is readily available!
Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 7:05?AM Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> I've had a chance to run the new Adobe enhance AI versus Topaz (both
> denoise and the AI) as well as another program.  ISO's range up to 20,000
> on a Sony A1.  The Adobe version was a little slow,  not a sharpened as the
> other two and was total AI with only the percentage of effect under user
> control.   Topaz denoise is very quick, effective, only OK on sharpening
> but did provide a level of user control.   Topaz AI needs to be looked at
> and adjusted as it can create a "Ken Doll" look.
>
> DxO's AI does a very good job overall.  It is slightly less effective on
> noise but produces a mostly believable sharpening.  You also have a level
> of control.   I do find it's creation of a separate file annoying but not
> fatal.
>
> If I am not pressed for time the Adobe enhance is a very good general
> purpose solution: it just is slow.
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023, 10:46 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> 
> wrote:
>
> > In latest release, not tried it yet but looks good?.
> >
> > https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2023/04/18/denoise-demystified
> >
> > john
> >
> >
> >
> >
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In reply to: Message from john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster) ([Leica] LR Denoise)
Message from don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory) ([Leica] LR Denoise)