Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2022/09/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thank you for the suggestion to look at Emmet Gowins images. I took a quick look at MoMA and found this image: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/94495 I think images like this would work very well with the Super Ikonta, it is not about the sharpness but the image itself and the subject matter treatment by the photographer. I am reminded of a comment about Edward Weston's negatives. They were intentionally very dense allowing great control over the tonal scale but difficult to print without having printed them under his direction: mostly his son prints them. He was working with large format so grain wasn't especially a concern. I do think that traditional silver photography allows a creative approach very different from digital. While I have 14-15 stops of information to deal with and discern silver has a completely different tonal range natively: you mentioned this in Chicago as to why you preferred your film M's to the Monochrome. All the best. On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 1:26 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Hi Don, > > Thanks, very interesting your comments and based on these tests I see that > there are many possibilities of images depending on the intended purpose. I > think from this point I need to follow these steps: > > - Check in the darkroom the real aspect of the copies. > - Check again the Super Ikonta with the rangefinder adjusted. > > An important fact that I didn't mention. I took the pictures with the > Rollleiflex with a tripod and placing a 10x magnifying glass on the > focusing screen, with the Super Ikonta they were taken hand held. > > I don't know the F64 movement but now I think I should experiment with the > tonal range. Two days ago I had the opportunity to visit a photographic > exhibition in which there was a small and wonderful collection of Emmet > Gowin's prints, extraordinary prints! I stayed a while examining them and > remembered that I had already seen some of them. Last year I bought two > books from the publishing house ?Lustrum Press? founded by Ralph Gibson, in > these books, which I think are essential for anyone who wants to do serious > work in the darkroom, great masters of photography talk about their > techniques, it is exciting, although you can not apply their techniques > exactly, you become aware of the importance of the basis of the tonal range > and it is to admire the artistic work of these true craftsmen of > photography, far from what is done today and without the need for giant > enlargements to large size in which you can count the hairs of the hair. I > recommend these books if only to get an idea of what photography was like > 50 or 60 years ago. > > Saludos desde Barcelona > Lluis > > ISBN : Darkroom 1: CLOTH 0-912810-20-3 PAPER 0-912810-19-x > ISBN: Darkroom 2: HARDCOVER 0-912810-22-x PAPER 0-912810-21-1 > > > > > El 6 set 2022, a les 19:17, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va > escriure: > > > > The 80 planar is an incredible lens in medium format and you have used it > > well. You know I can't resist tree roots and rocks so the Rollei series > is > > appealing to me. Your texture and selective focus is very poleasing. > > > > The Super Ikonta seems better suited to images that work better when > > romance, gradations, and a less crisp view is appropriate: the antithesis > > of the F64 movement. I am thinking more in the vein of Geogia O'Keefe's > > flowers where the gross shape and very rough texture are the important > > features. I think someone's suggestion last week to look at some of the > > Voightlander rangefinder offerings in medium format might give you a > medium > > format rangefinder that is possibly less expensive than the Fuji's. > > > > Another thought is to use the Super Ikonta in low light with highly > pushed > > Tri-x or HP-5 using the grain and softness to effect the feel of night. > My > > suggestions are really me working out using some of my less advanced > gear: > > I have struggled with the first generation Zeiss 35mm on a Contax II as > it > > is not a very good lens at least in my sample. At least in 35mm I can > use > > a 1600 or 3200 speed film. > > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 6:18 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at > > leica-users.org > > > > wrote: > > > >> All the pictures with Ilford FP4 EI 100, D-23 1:1 > >> > >> The first 5 with the Rolleiflex Planar 80mm f 2.8, the two last with the > >> Super Ikonta III > >> > >> My forest Fairy > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080407.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> Textures > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080401.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> Rocks 1 > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080403.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> Rocks 2 > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080404.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> Rocks 3 > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080405.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> With Super Ikonta III, Yellow medium filter > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080501.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> With Super Ikonta III, no filter > >> < > >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Medium+Format/2022F080503.jpg.html > >>> > >> > >> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome > >> > >> Saludos cordiales > >> Lluis > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > -- > > Don > > don.dory at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Don don.dory at gmail.com