Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2022/06/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]My point exactly. Easy fast simple. On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 3:34 PM Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG < lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > I ventured into a Synology NAS with RAID 5 a few years ago, primarily for > backup, and the damn thing broke down twice. Once was during the warranty > period, when it was set right by the sole distributor in India based in > Mumbai, and again 4 years ago. Both Synology and their distributor in > Mumbai had decided by then that they need not reply to emails/phone calls > from anyone owning any of their products which were out of the warranty > period, so it still sits as an expensive paperweight in my house. These are > very rare here still, so third party repair houses do not seem to be able > to repair them either. > > I have reverted to doing my backups on 5TB portable external hard drives > made by Seagate/WD. I keep three sets - one at my house, one at my son's > house and one in my bank locker. They get updated at weekly, monthly and > two month intervals respectively. If other members of the family want to > access the data, they just plug in the correct USB external drive out of > the set at home, and away they go. It works fine, it is simple and anyone > can do it. > > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:28 AM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us> > wrote: > > > I use my NAS devices to store files reliably. That's all. I don't do > > anything fancy. Sometimes I look at sections of the manual describing > > complex features, and think "I'm glad I don't have to read and > > understand that". When a disk failed, I took it out and put in a new > > one, and after about 18 hours it had fixed itself and assimilated the > > new disk into the borg of the NAS. I handle NAS issues by not having > > any. > > > > Because it's on a network (the "N" part of NAS) I can store to it from > > any of my computers, and access files on it from any of my computers. > > Inside the house. > > > > I know how to do fancy router stuff that would give me access to the NAS > > from outside the house, but I don't, because it would give Vladimir > > Putin's minions access too, and the best security is to have it be > > impossible. > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-06-30 11:28, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote: > > > I disagree with Brian..... He is better equipped personally to handle > > > NAS issues than a "normal" Human, without a brother that knows this > > > stuff. > > > > > > No NAS is easy to use..... other than if you wish most basic > > > functionality... > > > > > > As soon as you want to automatically backup, synch (data between two > > > drives, or your phnme to your computer) , or other more advanced > > > technique, you will need an IT Executive to help you. > > > > > > I am in the midst of trying to turn on or off my NAS remotely. ( > > > called Wake on Lan... WOL) The NAS works fine from inside the LAN, but > > > sending the command to the NAS from a different location ( Think NJ to > > > Calif), you need to have a special modem, router, WOL program, all of > > > which really complicates the "ease" of working with a NAS. You also > > > need to have a ISP company that can help you..... I am completely tied > > > to Spectrum ( Charter subsidiary) which has no idea of what I need to > > > do nor has given me any answers that work. Even the Tech Support has > > > told me to get this or that WIFI Router, which also do not work..... > > > Because they actually changed the BIOS so they WILL NOT work with WOL > > > commands from outside the LAN. The ISP only is geared to the average > > > homeowner, not someone that want to do something like add a NAS.... > > > Basically, in NAS World, you are on your own. > > > > > > If you think this is because I have no background in Electronics, I > > > have a BSEE Degree, which should be enough ( barely) to at least > > > follow directions. > > > > > > The problem is that the NAS instructions are geared more to the > > > average IT guy, not some homeowner...... Things come up and do not > > > work. Why? you NEED to understand the WHY...... to find a "fix". > > > Remember, I told you that you are on your own!!! > > > > > > The bottom line is that there NEEDS to be a real REASON to use a > > > NAS.... and the willingness to put up with the pain it causes. ( or > > > have an IT Pro in your family. A brother is a good choice.) > > > > > > The BEST, IMO, reason is the ability to synch 2 different HDD in two > > > different locations, .... Otherwise stick with USB HDD. > > > > > > USB Connected HDD are significantly easier to use, do not use special > > > recording formats, and are really cheap. > > > > > > If you are insistent upon using a NAS or NEED it..... > > > > > > I use, or rather trying to use, a Synology NAS. The tech support is > > > usually pretty good, and there is lots of stuff written down to help > > > you along. I have several. DO NOT BUY THE CHEAPEST MODEL! Get the + > > > ( Plus) models. > > > > > > They come in a bunch of flavors, including 1,2,4,5 and more HDD > > > capability. > > > > > > YOU need to decide if you NEED or WANT drive redundancy.... > > > > > > AND if all this discussion is something you do not understand, get a > > > USB HDD or 2, or 3, and use that...... You will be lost in a > > > NAS........ > > > > > > AND if you are a MAC person, there may be better Apple solutions out > > > there..... But I only use PC's and that is all I know...... > > > > > > Or ask Brian if he will adopt you as his OTHER > > > brother/Sister/Son/Daughter/Aunt/Uncle. > > > > > > > > > Frank Filippone > > > BMWRed735i at Gmail.com > > > On 6/30/2022 7:34 AM, Brian Reid wrote: > > >> On 2022-06-30 10:30, Jack Milton wrote: > > >>> Hello Brian, > > >>> I know NAS has advantages, but what do you think of the complexity > > >>> for the average user? > > >> > > >> One of my brothers is a musician, living in Maine (York). I gave him a > > >> NAS for a 60th birthday present, with the idea that he could use it > > >> for safe and reliable storage of his music archives. He was able to > > >> set it up and start using it without asking for help, and it has > > >> served him flawlessly. > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Frank Filippone BMWRed735i at gmail.com