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Subject: [Leica] I came over to the dark side
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 08:16:42 +0530
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I have used the various AI features since the day they were released - not
only in Adobe products, but those by DXO, Topaz and Skylum (Luminar) as
well. They all have their uses, and each of these has its own strong
points, which is why I use multiple addons together with
Lightroom/Photoshop. All the addons, and Adobe's AI remove tools, except
capture noise reduction (DXO PureRAW or Topaz AI) are far simpler and more
intuitive to use from Photoshop, so that is what I do. The Noise Reduction
tools, especially, available today whether it be DXO, Topaz or Adobe work
like magic - and they can be applied directly on the RAW file prior to
conversion for maximum benefit and minimum artifacts, so any photographer
not using this technique is missing something major - to, by and large, not
worry about ISO values in their images anymore.

Incidentally, you can get hires output from Adobe's AI tools, but you would
have to work in blocks of 1024x1024 pixels. Here is a tutorial on how to
expand an image, by way of example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlaM-qsXRgY

Cheers
Jayanand



On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 3:25?AM Aram Langhans via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Yep.  I actually purchased the Adobe Photographer subscription a while
> back before the prices went up.  I have not done much with it yet
> preferring to stick with Lightroom 6 and CS6, but I  have gotten curious
> about the AI abilities in removing objects.  I have to say I am mostly
> impressed.  Here are a few examples from a recent trip to Leavenworth.
> They are doing a lot of construction along the main drag so there was
> lots of equipment interfering with the usual nice views, so I took some
> shots anyway specifically to try the AI removal tools in LR and
> Photoshop. Here are the results.
>
> Original Image with some offending outhouses: Leavenworth WA-1004237
> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004237.jpg.html
> >
>
> A little AI removal: Leavenworth WA-1004237-Edit
> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004237-Edit.jpg.html
> >
>
> Another original image with trucks and structures: Leavenworth
> WA-1004234
> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004234.jpg.html
> >
>
> And AI removal: Leavenworth WA-1004234-Edit
> <
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/m/Leavenworth+WA-1004234-Edit.jpg.html
> >
>
>
> If you were to blow them up and look carefully I am sure you could see
> they were worked on.  For one thing, the AI synthisized image is much
> lower resolution than the Q3 original image.  I think it is 1 or 2 K
> resolution.  And of course there would be a few artifacts that if I was
> really industrious I would have to work on.  But by and large they took
> a totally unacceptable image and made it into a pretty good mediocre
> image in my unskilled hands.  Maybe you are an old hand at this so these
> seem pretty amateurish to you.  Maybe I will work on it or maybe I will
> just take more time to line shots up that do not require the use of this
> tool.  Be a real photographer rather than a technician.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Aram
>
>
>
> --
> Aram Langhans
> (Semi) Retired Science Teacher
> & Unemployed photographer
>
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> would ever have dared dream.?   James D. Watson
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