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Subject: [Leica] Still pics with the ugly Kentmere 400
From: smithjeffery at mac.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2021 10:27:15 -0700
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LLuis,

I'm getting very good results with the somewhat expensive Ilfotec DD-X. I 
like the results with TMax400 (even pushed 2 stops), and I just developed a 
roll of Delta 100 (still drying). I hope to shoot a roll of Kentmere 400 
this after noon to see if there is any real future for Kentmere 400 in my 
future given the strong competition at ISO 400.

I'm regressing back to non-metered cameras (IIIg and M4). I will probably 
sell my M6 with the good meter in it and hang on to the M6 with the broken 
meter (I'll think of it as my 2nd M4). 

Jeffery

> On Jul 3, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeffery,
> 
> On the 90?s I?ve used Ilford ID-11 developer, after 2000 manly X-Tol, on 
> both cases with great results with Ilford HP5, I think right now they have 
> changed something on the quality of the film, it is more grainy, even with 
> D-23, however (in my opinion) in 120 film it keep his quality. A friend of 
> mine is using HP5 and he develop it with Ilford Perceptol with great 
> results if he expose at E.I. 320 or even lower, I have to test it.
> 
> I think that T-Max 400 or Ilford Delta 400 are actually much better than 
> HP5. I?m also happy with Tri-X and D-23.
> 
> I agree, this year with maked people is not a good one for is!
> 
> Lluis
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> El 3 jul 2021, a les 17:19, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>> 
>> LLuis,
>> 
>> I have to admit that D23 is a good developer for this film, and I keep 
>> going back to it when I get distracted to other films. For 400 ISO, I've 
>> gotten to liking TMax400 because I can push it to 1600 without any 
>> drastic grain. I have tried to like HP5+ because everyone else gets good 
>> results with it, but it just leaves me a bit flat. 
>> 
>> Lluis, many of your images are taken in extremes of light and dark as you 
>> photograph in bright sunlight but also have dark shadows in the same 
>> frame, and what is in both extremes is important. I confess to avoiding 
>> those conditions simply because I haven't had much luck in getting the 
>> contrast tamed. Because of my reluctance, I lose a lot of opportunities. 
>> It hasn't been much of an issue this past year...everyone is wearing 
>> masks, and that ruins the interesting part of people pictures.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:06 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your information and your example Jeffery, I have the RAW 
>>> Chemicals in my darkroom to formulate D-96. Logtime ago I?ve deveped it 
>>> with X-Tol, the contrast was good, shiny negatives but a certain lack of 
>>> gradation and a gritty look, it is difficult to see throught the screen 
>>> but I still see these aspects that make that this film is not for me, I 
>>> really prefer Ilford HP5 or Tri-X developed on D-23.
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 28 juny 2021, a les 2:57, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
>>>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> I found Kentmere 400 to be a bit on the "chalk and soot" side until I 
>>>> developed it in D-96. 
>>>> Now I like it!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great content.   The Kentmere appears to provide nice gradation quite 
>>>>> a bit
>>>>> of the time.  Contrast does seem hard to control.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 7:37 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>> leica-users.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> At the late Sun of the Day
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2021F060335.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Passing
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2021F060334.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> La Boqueria market closing time
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2021F060312.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Moments of the life
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2021F060317.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Two, better than one
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2021F060319.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kiss in La Rambla
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2021F060321.jpg.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Leica M6, Summilux 35 pre asph, Kentmere 400, D-76 1:1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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