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Subject: [Leica] Different walks
From: photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com (Philippe)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 20:13:40 +0100
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Don, I don?t know about Feiniger who may have had his/her merits.

What I see is Lluis?s work as presented in today?s context. And knowing the 
guy Lluis, I perceive that his change in visualisation owes nothing to 
anything deliberate - Lluis shoots according to the circumstances, and 
faithfully reports on i) what he sees, ii) what he feels ii)how he can 
achieve a testimony. This is how I sense the whole thing (think of the 
Ferrari shot, the car is immaterial, the encourter with the shopping cart 
tells me Lluis is a vigilant observer of our times. Time will tell, and I 
don?t know who is right and who is wrong here.

I would certainly not like to start a fight or a quarrel - better I believe 
that this thread is the first one in ages when we discuss the merrits of 
photographs other than in terms of like/don?t like, and the soul of 
photography. I?m thankful to Lluis and you to have brought this up.


Amities

Philippe



> Le 26 oct. 2020 ? 17:07, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit 
> :
> 
> Philippe, your point about isolation being portrayed with the intent of the
> subjects to remain a part of the culture is well taken.  This is an
> arguable artistic point; imagine "Morning in the park" cropped tightly to
> the se?orita and her shadow back to the right.  The tightness would be
> similar to the Feinenger image of the woman at the corner of a building so
> the se?orita is walking out of the frame with the background including the
> people on the bench almost disappearing into the blur.
> 
> Seeing the artists vision and then imagining the situation in different
> frames is why art is so important for a culture and for a culture to
> communicate to others outside what it is to be inside.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:06 AM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> That?s a different type of photos, Don is right.
>> 
>> But I like it to be able to see these people in a larger frame. These are
>> not portraits. Nor Plans Americains. They are people in isolation trying 
>> to
>> pretend they may live an instant of normal life. And the large framing
>> weighs into this direction.
>> 
>> BTW #1 & #3 show their backs, as if they were about to leave the frame and
>> a director?s  CUT ! was about to resonate on the set with an Italian 
>> accent
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Keep wearing that mask Lluis, and shooting with a vengeance :-)
>> 
>> Amities
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 26 oct. 2020 ? 15:41, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a 
>>> ?crit
>> :
>>> 
>>> Lluis, your sense of light remains strong.  I do think that you are
>>> responsibly distancing yourself which detracts from the strength of your
>>> vision.  To stay safe I suggest you transition to a 75 Summilux or a 90
>> to
>>> be safe but recapture the intimacy and clarity of your photography.
>>> Alternatively, I am not "getting" the isolation or loneliness you may be
>>> trying to convey, but I will return to your images later this week when I
>>> have more time to view them and perhaps better understand the images.
>>> 
>>> Be safe and keep showing us your city.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 6:06 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Weelchair?s walk
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100108.jpg.html
>>> 
>>>> Leica M6, Summilux 35 pre, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
>>>> 
>>>> A morning in the Park
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100111.jpg.html
>>> 
>>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
>>>> 
>>>> Walking with the Dog
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Barcelona/2020F100112.jpg.html
>>> 
>>>> Leica M6, Noctilux 50, Ilford HP5, D-23 1:3
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>> 
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Don
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>>> 
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> 
> 
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> Don
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> 
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