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Subject: [Leica] WAS Re: LUG Year Book - JIM
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 17:51:47 -0400
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They, Pentax with the Spotmatic in the early mid 70's were also noted for 
two other things.
1. The Super-Takumar multicoated lenses was developed by them with Zeiss who 
called theirs T* coating and it represented a notch up on the simpler 
heavier coatings on everyone's cameras. Many saw it as a thing they had to 
have. Took a few years for the rest of the camera industry to catch up.
It was thinner layers and more of them.

2. The ergonomics. The feel. Outmatched by anyone ever. The camera just 
melted into your hands like no other ever did before, after or during.


 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 10/4/19, 9:23 AM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    Correct.  The design originally was to have been a spot meter, but tests
    showed that users had difficulty using it, so it was changed to a
    center-weight TTL meter, one of the first around.
    
    The change came too close to production, and the camera shells and much 
of
    the advertising was already directed to "Spotmatic" so the name stuck.
    
    I bought my first one from Asahi Camera Company in Yokohama, and my 
father
    bought a second for me at the BX at Tan San Nuitt AFB, Vietnam.
    
    Both came with goop over the Asahi Pentax nameplate to clear customs, as
    Honeywell was the vendor for Pentax back then.
    
    These were my first SLR cameras.  and I used them from 1966 until I
    switched to Nikon for work in 1972.
    
    I sold my Pentax kit to the Haydel Brothers, famous for introducing 
filled
    King Cakes to New Orleans.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sonny
    http://sonc.com/look/
    Natchitoches, Louisiana
    1714
    Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
    
    USA
    
    
    On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 4:21 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
    
    > It just reminds me of the a key " not a Spotmatic" thing.
    > And that?s a spot.
    > We assume the Spotmatic had a spot meter in it.
    > It did not. They were going to put one in but it didn?t happen.
    > But they called it a Spotmatic anyways.
    > I used one often in the early 70's as I'd take one out for the weekend
    > from school.
    > Could never find the spot.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mark William Rabiner
    > Photographer
    >
    > ?On 10/1/19, 4:22 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
    > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
    > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >
    >     Jim,
    >
    >     On top of my Spotmatic F, I had an ESII which was probably the last
    > 42mm issued before the K series. It had the 42mm thread, but was not a
    > Spotmatic ;-)
    >
    >     Some of the lenses were great!  I miss my younger years more than 
the
    > 42mm thread though :-)
    >
    >     Amities
    >
    >     Philippe
    >
    >
    >
    >     > Le 1 oct. 2019 ? 22:14, Jim Hemenway <jim at hemenway.com> a 
?crit :
    >     >
    >     > Gerry:
    >     >
    >     > Over ten years ago, I was a member of a Pentax group whose
    > membership was 50-50 screw mount and bayonet.
    >     >
    >     > The former didn't want any posting which referred to cameras 
newer
    > than Spotmatics, (1967) and would do much ranting whenever their wishes
    > were not adhered to.  These members were known as the "Takumars"
    >     >
    >     > Whenever someone made a post about digital Pentax cameras there 
was
    > hell to pay.
    >     >
    >     > It was like having a raven nipping on your shoulder spitting out 
a
    > "Nevermore" whenever you broke their "rules"
    >     >
    >     > Eventually when I realized that the Takumars were really just 
camera
    > collectors and not necessarily camera users... I left the list along 
with
    > many others,
    >     >
    >     > There is no moral to the story.
    >     >
    >     > JimH
    >     >
    >     > P.S. A five year frequency? How many of us do you think will 
still
    > be alive in five years.
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > On 9/22/19 12:32 AM, Gerry Walden via LUG wrote:
    >     >> I have come to the decision not to participate unless it is a 
LEICA
    > yearbook and not a yearbook of general photographs taken on everything
    > there is. If non-Leica images are deemed to be acceptable by others 
making
    > decisions, then at the very least there should be a clear 
differentiation
    > (i.e. a separate section) for the non-Leica images at the back of the 
book
    > after the Leica section.
    >     >>
    >     >> As for general thoughts on the time frame, and because a number 
of
    > people are shooting less with their Leicas, would it be an idea for 
these
    > to be done every five years thus allowing for a (hopefully) bigger
    > submission.
    >     >>
    >     >> Gerry
    >     >>
    >     >> Gerry Walden
    >     >> www.gwpics.com
    >     >> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
    >     >> +44 (0)797 287 7932
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>> On 22 Sep 2019, at 05:13, Brian Reid <reid at 
mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
    > wrote:
    >     >>>
    >     >>>
    >     >>>> Just sharing my thoughts about this. Of course Brian will be
    > holding the
    >     >>>> mike and have the final say.
    >     >>> The reason I haven't announced anything yet is that I've been
    > hoping that more people will offer suggestions or express opinions.
    >     >>>
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