Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/07/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]First of all:
We have no idea how good the S2 is/will be.
Second:
We don't really know what the cost of the camera
will be in the US/Canada (Canadian likely to be
10% more than US, as that is approximately the
current situation will Leica). The cost in the US
will probably be about the same in $ as the BP
price, plus 25% as that is an approximation of
the current relationship of Leica UK/US prices.
But the main thing is that we don't know how good
the S2 is. The Hassy/Fuji produces good files,
but there is certainly room for improvement, and
the S2 has a chance of bettering those.
We always knew or should have known that Leica
was not going to provide a cheaper option.
At 1:29 AM -0400 7/30/09, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> How do you do your math?
>>
>> Hassy sensor: 1798.3 sq.mm
>> Leica sensor: 1350 sq.mm
>>
>> That makes the Hassy sensor 33% larger than the Leica one. Or, the
>> other way round, the Leica sensor is 25% smaller than the Hassy one.
>> Either way, the difference is well more than 10%.\
>
>
>The wonders of Math
>30 x 45mm vs.
>36.7 x 49.0 mm,
>Seems like s few more mm's on each side
>But I'll take your word for it. Its 33 not 10.
>Actually 33 is my favorite number. Or 33.3 to be exact.
>
>But the real way I screwed it up is the money
>Because if its 32,000 bucks instead of $21,225 then the Fuji Hassy you then
>could get might be in a different league.
>
>Wait a minute I'll check......
>...ok I'm back.
>The more expensive Hassy's have the same size sensor.
>
>But now I see the real problem......
>
>The real problem is there are all kinds of cheaper Hassy H's and V's.
>$17,995.95 for the H3DII-31 SLR Digital Camera Kit with 80mm Lens
>$11,999.95 for the 503CWD SLR Digital Camera Kit with 40mm Lens
>
>And the one from my viewpoint as a photographer who didn't sell his Hassy
>Zeiss glass for peanuts but just held on to them is the 503CWD
>As its chump change 12 grand and fits all my glass.
>I can almost by three of them for the price of an S2.
>
>This for me makes the S2 dreams recede gently into the sunset.
>Building a set of S2 glass would cost what?
>
>SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH ?3,096
>SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH CS ?4,025
>APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 ?4,541
>APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 CS ?5,160
>APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 ?4,541
>APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 CS ?5,160
>SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH ?3,612
>SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH CS ?4,231
>
>
>But I have a head start of 33.3 years with Zeiss Hassy glass.
>
>
>Rabiner
>
>
>
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