Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/06/06

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Hexar Back focus
From: Dante Stella <dante@umich.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:58:07 -0400 (EDT)

One more note - I though that only modern SLRs had four rails.  I opened
my Canon P and discovered that it had four (it's the same year as my M3).

So only the M3 (and maybe the M4 and M6) has this weird geometry that
presses the film directly against the inner rail (at least the top one).

Has anyone measured a CLE?

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Marshall Hunt wrote:

> My Ms (M3, M4-P) have 4 rails.  The pressure plate rests on
> the outer rails, and the film travels over the inner rails.
> The film travels through a space defined by the outer rails
> longitudinally, and the difference in height between the
> inner and outer rails, vertically.  The emulsion side does
> not touch anything in the picture area, and the shiny side
> barely touches the pressure plate. (On my cameras you can
> see the abrasion where the plate touches the outer rail, but
> no abrasion in the center of the plate from the film).The
> pressure plate does not depend upon the film for support.
> Even my Zorki has 4 rails. Did Leica remove them for the M6?
> I doubt it. Hunt.
>
> Dante Stella wrote:
> >
> > The pressure plate is not flexible.  It rests on the film, which rests on
> > the inner guide rails.  When there is no film, it rests on the outer guide
> > rails (which are slightly raised).  This is pretty conventional with
> > modern motorized SLRs, at least as far as I can tell.  Too much force
> > against the film would be hard on the motors, I think.
> >
> > My M3 has no outer rails, and the plate rests on the film plane rails with
> > no film in it.
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> >
> > > John Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can only speculate but perhaps the flange to film distances are the same.
> > > > The difference may be in the measuring technique. If Hexar measures from the
> > > > bayonet flange to the pressure plate, this would give a greater distance
> > > > than Leica's  nominal 27.8mm which is to the front surface of the film.
> > > >
> > > > John Collier
> > > >
> > > ><Snip>
> > >
> > > Is the pressure plate flexible? Under pressure?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark Rabiner
> > >
> > > Portland, Oregon
> > > USA
> > >
> > > http://www.rabiner.cncoffice.com/
> > >
>