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Subject: [Leica] Leica Elmar 90mm f4 LTM
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 11:28:03 -0500
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Lluis, in these days of adapters and mirrorless cameras, the Elmarit-R 
90 f/2.8 with retractable hood is a pleasure to use, though not suitable 
for rangefinder cameras. Mine stays on my Fuji X-T2.

On 7/18/21 7:32 AM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
> Fortunately in my Leica experience I had the chance to use several 90 
> lenses
>
> Elmar 9 cm f4 on my Leca IIIF times, it was a very nice compact lenses, 
> smooth tones and resolution
> Elmarit 90 f 2.8 M, it was too soft contrasted for me
> Summicron 90 R, I loved this one, maybe my favorite 90
> Tele-Elmarit 90 M F 2.8, a wonderful compact lens, useful!
> Summicron 90 AA, excellent and somertimes too sharp
>
> Lluis
>
>
>
>> El 18 jul 2021, a les 5:47, Jeffery Smith via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>
>> Ah, so it is younger than me, and in much better shape. Thanks very much 
>> Jim. That is where I was hoping it would be. Non clinical, nice bokeh.
>>
>> Jeffery
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jeffery,
>>>
>>> Lenses made in 1951 range from 840001 to 950000.
>>>
>>> On 7/17/21 10:04 PM, Jeffery Smith via LUG wrote:
>>>> I have about 7 LTM cameras, and like most of them. I'll check the 
>>>> serial number next time I'm in the house (I'm stationed in Mom'a 
>>>> garage). The lens I got is remarkably clean, no haze, no fungus, no 
>>>> "cleaning marks that don't affect the performance". It is absolutely 
>>>> single coated (if even that). It looks unused...the question is why 
>>>> nobody used it. We'll see.
>>>>
>>>> I'm pondering which film to use since I want to do at least E.I. 800 
>>>> because the folks at the barbecue are in perpetual motion, and it will 
>>>> be under an awning that blocks much of the sun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, my serial number is 874068. And it has an interesting feature 
>>>> than was not intentional...the metal body cap also functions as a lens 
>>>> cap. It screws into the body, but pushes onto the end of the lens.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the information Frank. I hope this  is a keeper.
>>>>
>>>> Jeffery
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2021, at 7:49 PM, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at 
>>>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have one that has a serial number below 100,000, which makes it 
>>>>> about as old as a Leica lens can be.... ( before 1931.. 90 years old)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is, when mounted with the appropriate adapter and used on an M9,  
>>>>> almost as sharp in the center as a 90 Elmarit ( the thin, Modern M 
>>>>> one).  It is quite soft as you head towards the corners.  The Elmarit 
>>>>> is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested it against the later reincarnations, a silver 60's model, and 
>>>>> did not find a significant difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is NOT the clinical look of the 90AA nor the 90 Summarit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to test the 90's I have to find their strengths and 
>>>>> weaknesses.  I will add it to my list of lenses.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will take a while to test, but I will state the results here....
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, I have a 90 ELmar-C which sold for about the same price as the 
>>>>> LTM model. It is quite good, but if you are looking to get the 
>>>>> "special" look, skip the C.
>>>>>
>>>>> LTM models and M models differ 10% in price..... and you do not need 
>>>>> an adapter if you are using it on an M camera.  Why an LTM model?  LTM 
>>>>> camera?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you decide on any older Leica lens, check it for haze... a common 
>>>>> remnant of outgassing of the lubricant originally used.  Common 
>>>>> problem with lenses through the 70's.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>>>>> On 7/17/2021 12:37 PM, Jeffery Smith via LUG wrote:
>>>>>> My Erwin Puts books are back home in Louisiana. Does anyone have 
>>>>>> experience or insight into this particular lens? I would like the 
>>>>>> vintage portrait look, and this model doesn't seem particularly 
>>>>>> coveted, at least not if price is an indicator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeffery
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> -- 
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>
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