[Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?

[mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)]

I had coffe with a protogee a year or so back and she told me she also used 
Photoshop as she was showing my her pix on her iPHone.
Later on I figured out that on the box of Lightroom it says Photoshop. 
Photoshop Lightroom or visa versa.
So Adobe thoughts you should not get your cake and eat it too.

 
 

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Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 12/19/19, 1:04 PM, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    Adobe managed to screw the pooch by playing around with the names 
Lightroom, Classic, and CC.  Mind boggling stupidity.
    The historical names are not important....  You want to know what to 
buy/rent today??????
    
    If you want to use the Cloud Version, which is where you MUST store your 
photos and have access to them anywhere you can get a network connection to 
the web, and or want to process your images on an Ipad type devcice, buy ( 
rent?) the Plain ordinary Lightroom.
    
     If you want to use a HDD that is local to you ( meaning on your desk), 
not have access to your photos in multiple locations (NO cloud), nor 
otherwise process on an IPad, and or do not have a fast internet connection( 
Dial up users beware!!!) or restricted amount of data transfer from the WEB, 
 then you want to rent (buy?) the Lightroom Classic version. 
    
    Remember that Adobe charges for use of the Cloud storage...... $ per TB, 
per month..... Not the amount you actually use or transfer, the actual 
storage amount that you request.....
    
    This info is valid right now.   Adobe will probably change the names 
again in the future to further obfuscate the user getting the version he 
really wants/needs.
    
    Frank Filippone
    
    Red735i at verizon.net
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
    Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 9:17 AM
    To: Leica Users Group
    Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
    
    Thanks John and Philippe.
    Here it is!:
    https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom-classic.html
    
     
     
    
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    Mark William Rabiner
    Photographer
    
    ?On 12/19/19, 12:10 PM, "LUG on behalf of John McMaster" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of john at 
mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
    
        Yes of course you can, LR Classic is still held locally (as well as 
having many more functions than LR CC)
        
        John
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
        Sent: 19 December 2019 17:02
        To: Leica Users Group
        Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
        
        So really you can't use lightroom with your own hard disk you have 
to use their cloud?
        
        
         
         
        
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        Mark William Rabiner
        Photographer
        
        ?On 12/18/19, 5:54 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:
        
            LR Classic is now LR CCC - Classic but Cloud based.
            LR CC doesn?t work for (serious) photographers, you miss 
essential bells and whistles. 
            I tried it, and changed my subscription the next day to LR CCC.
            
            The offer may vary from country to country though.
            
            Amities
            
            Philippe
            
            
            
            > Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 11:49, John McMaster <john at 
mcmaster.co.uk> a ?crit :
            > 
            > No, LR Classic is still there in the photography plan 
(together with PS and LR CC)....
            > 
            > john
            > 
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Richard Man
            > Sent: 18 December 2019 09:13
            > To: Leica Users Group
            > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
            > 
            > I have been using LR since v2. However, if you jump in now, 
you will have
            > to get the "cloud version". It's not even so much that you are 
paying
            > "Adobe tax" every year, because the software is worth the 
$100+ every year,
            > if you can afford it. The major problem is the instability. 
Just do some
            > web searches and you will find many stories.
            > 
            > Since I only use LR (and PSD), but the pre-cloud versions, and 
nothing
            > else, I don't know what to recommend. Good luck.
            > 
            > 
            > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:06 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
            > 
            >> In the 90's they stopped demanding the kids all go outside 
for recess and
            >> get exercise catching baseballs and playing on the Playground 
Equipment .
            >> They let them stay indoors all filling up the computer room 
all of them
            >> playing with their new favorite toy. Photoshop.
            >> None of them played computer games. They all played with 
Photoshop with
            >> any image they could get their hands on. Mainly downloads. As 
did I in my
            >> studio.
            >> It was years before I photoshopped a scan from one of my own 
images.
            >> endless of fun. I started staying up late at night the best 
Photoshop
            >> time. Still do.
            >> Popular with all the young photographers shooting cheap 
cameras. The ones
            >> with the expensive camera though were not going to waste 
their money and
            >> time on making images with expensive software.
            >> They brought their memory cards into Walgreens.
            >> More expensive the gear; less they care about the images 
which may come
            >> out of them. That?s a rule you can count on!
            >> 
            >> 
            >> 
            >> 
            >> --
            >> 
            >> Mark William Rabiner
            >> Photographer
            >> 
            >> ?On 12/18/19, 1:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
            >> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on 
behalf of
            >> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
            >> 
            >>    Primarily, there?s software that came with your camera.
            >> 
            >>    Then Lightroom Classic CC (the other version is for kids 
on tablets) -
            >> a fully integrated suite that operates quite quite 
intuitively.
            >> 
            >>    And if you want (mainly useless) horse power there?s 
photoshop. The
            >> leaning curve is then hymalayasesque, and I personally gave 
up ?
            >> 
            >>    OTT depending on the camera you use, you may also 
sometimes get better
            >> results with DXO, Capture One, On1, and a few others.
            >> 
            >>    Let?s say LR is the swiss knife of them all and accepts 
plug-ins if
            >> needed
            >> 
            >>    Hope this helps
            >> 
            >>    Amities
            >> 
            >>    Philippe
            >> 
            >> 
            >> 
            >>> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 02:24, Richard Endress via LUG <
            >> lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit :
            >>> 
            >>> Hi all,
            >>> 
            >>> I find that the product formerly known as iPhoto, for a 
couple
            >> reasons, is no longer a good fit for me.
            >>> What software are you all using to manage your digital 
images?
            >> Adobe- something? What do you recommend?
            >>> 
            >>> 
            >>> Richard Endress
            >>> rendress at me.com
            >>> 
            >>> 
        
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