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Subject: [Leica] Pray for Hong Kong
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:04:23 +0530
References: <CAF8hL-EvzPtd1H=CZ88UinAGkA6psc=izD0RepFfxzLb7QSFuw@mail.gmail.com> <F6CBBF91-F1C2-4461-8047-2825DFA5377A@frozenlight.eu>

I really think, as I wrote here on Kashmir, that one country with two
systems and two categories of citizenship really does not work.

China got the island back quite legally, on expiry of a lease, and not by
force. I expect them to take over Hong Kong, lock stock and barrel, because
if they do not show their authority emphatically, they are in danger of
splintering, much like USSR did, and what I presume would happen to India
if Kashmir were allowed to secede. These are not homogeneous countries at
all (we have 22 official languages in our constitution, 44 more demanding
inclusion, and a few thousand more on the side), so it is difficult to
understand for those who have not lived in such a pot pourri of cultures.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:47 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
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> I am sorry to say that I am quite pessimistic. I was a child in Poland
> when the Prague Spring was crushed by the Soviet Union and four other
> Warsaw Pact countries in 1968, and I believe the same thing will end up
> happening in Hong Kong. And just as the world did nothing then, it will do
> nothing now. China is too powerful, it is an ?internal matter? etc.
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> Sorry?
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> > On 17 Aug 2019, at 08:00, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote:
> >
> > A number of LUGgers have lived in Hong Kong, some like Howard, for many
> > years. Some like Greg, occasional visitors. Many have visited.
> >
> > I was born in Hong Kong, and the current events fill me with
> trepidation. I
> > talked to my Tai Chi teacher, and he said wisely, "Water always find its
> > level". A very Daoist thing, be like water.
> >
> > If I have the resource, I will go there now, to document the events.
> There
> > are lots of propaganda flowing around, including hilariously that US is
> > paying the protesters.
> >
> > Anyway, please keep up with the news. I don't know what will happen. I
> hope
> > the Tiananman scenario does not happen. If you are on Facebook, you can
> > follow sites like Hong Kong Free Press (which is definitely very much pro
> > democracy and independence), or SCMP which was a very well respected news
> > source, but less so in recent years as it was bought by Jack Ma, the
> > Alibaba founder, but it still does provide news reports without too much
> > bias.
> >
> > Without getting into politics, the current administration does not care
> > about democracy in Hong Kong other than whatever fits its selfish agenda.
> > However, we can still call our Congress representatives. Anyway, please
> > send good thoughts and hope for bloodless resolution.
> >
> > Thank you.
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