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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Galileo was right
From: hlritter at bex.net (Howard L Ritter Jr)
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:26:55 -0400
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You?re welcome! Please post your results.

?howard

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 1:50 PM, Adam Bridge via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> This was really useful fo rme, Howard. Thank you! With Jupiter so bright 
> in our sky right now I?m thinking it?s time to give this a shot.
> 
> Adam
> 
>> On 2019 Jun 17, at 8:20 AM, Howard L Ritter Jr via LUG <lug at 
>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That?s a pretty good image for the lens, Peter, and some optimization 
>> would make it even more impressive.
>> 
>> In your shot, the relatively small image size of the moons, which are 
>> effectively point sources at this FL, suggests that you could capture 
>> Jupiter's atmospheric cloud bands if you avoid the overexposure of this 
>> image. In photographing the rich but low-contrast detail in the 
>> atmosphere, overexposure is your enemy. Underexposure, with enhancement 
>> in post-exposure processing, can record nice detail, while overexposure 
>> that saturates anything more than a few of the brightest pixels 
>> irretrievably obliterates detail. You might try it again at 1/30 and 
>> shorter, and play with the result in PS Camera Raw, especially the 
>> exposure, contrast, clarity, and dehaze sliders. You might lose the moons 
>> at optimal exposure for the atmosphere, but you could do a composite 
>> image.
>> 
>> And of course the sweet spot for resolution is somewhere between wide 
>> open, where diffraction-limited resolution is best but aberrations can 
>> occur, and fully stopped down, where aberrations are negligible but 
>> diffraction-limited resolution is worst. If you can find 
>> resolution-vs-aperture data for this lens, that might guide you. At f/11, 
>> the effective aperture of a 300-mm lens is just over 1 inch, which by the 
>> Rayleigh criterion has a resolving power of about 4.5 seconds of arc. 
>> (The angular diameter of the Galilean moons is about 1 arcsec, and of 
>> Jupiter, currently at opposition, about 45 arcsec.) You might experiment 
>> with larger apertures once you?ve found the optimal exposure time at 
>> f/11. If your lens goes to f/5.6, you could double your resolution ? even 
>> if that?s wide open, the aberrations might affect mostly the off-axis 
>> portions of the image.
>> 
>> Sorry if I?ve turned a trip to the playground into a regimented chore! If 
>> you try any of this, please post. If I ever get clear weather, I?ll put 
>> my M240 on my 155-mm f/7 apo refractor and see what I can get.
>> 
>> ?howard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 17, 2019, at 5:06 AM, Peter Klein via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at 
>>> N04/48078173256/in/dateposted-public/>
>>> 
>>> Jupiter and its four largest moons.  E-M5 on tripod, my $30 bargain-bin 
>>> 300mm Soligor lens, 1/8 sec at f/11, 100% pixels. One could do better 
>>> with a telescope, but I thought it would be fun to see what I could get 
>>> with what I had on hand.  Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> --Peter
>>> 
>>> 
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