[Leica] Paper profile question

[chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Christopher Crawford)]

I used Imageprint with my first good inkjet printer, the Epson 2200, 16 
years ago. It was great, and back then was the only way to get good BW 
prints, but the pricing was really extreme, and its gotten FAR worse. The 
version for 13x19 printers was $500 back then, and now its $700. I am using 
an Epson P800 now and they want $900 for the software for it. No thanks; I 
just plain cannot afford that.


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?On 8/22/18, 12:24 AM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of 
lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

    I have been using ImagePrint ever since 2003/4 when I started printing in
    earnest, in the days of getting random green and magenta tints on B&W
    prints on an Epson 1290. There was no choice but use a RIP in those days
    for neutral B&W output, and IP's profiles were, and still are, much 
better
    than the manufacturers canned ones. Having paid out the initial joining 
fee
    eons ago, I have been upgrading as and when I have been upgrading 
printers,
    as I am used to their interface and it is a part of my printing workflow.
    If I were in the same position today that I was way back then, I would 
not
    bother with a RIP, as Chris pointed out, and stick to the Epson ABW 
driver,
    as it has improved by leaps and bounds over the years.
    
    Cheers
    Jayanand
    
    On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:00 AM Paul Roark via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
    wrote:
    
    > I print all my B&W with QuadToneRip.
    >
    > Many use the OEM inkset, but I prefer a dedicated B&W approach.
    >
    > FWIW,
    >
    > Paul
    > www.PaulRoark.com
    >
    > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Christopher Crawford <
    > chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
    >
    > > Ken,
    > >
    > > Inexpensive profiling kits like that one don't really produce very 
good
    > > profiles, and even the high end profiling devices don't do well for 
BW
    > > printing. To be honest, the Epson Advanced BW Mode produces FAR more
    > > accurate B&W prints than you'll get from using any color profile, 
and it
    > is
    > > built-in and free.
    > >
    > > I made a tutorial on how to use it:
    > >
    > > https://youtu.be/kxkpJEzn8YM
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Chris Crawford
    > > Fine Art Photography
    > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
    > > 260-437-8990
    > >
    > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
    > >
    > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
    > > Like My Work on Facebook
    > >
    > >
    > > ?On 8/21/18, 8:07 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ken Carney" 
<lug-bounces+chris=
    > > chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of kcarney1 at 
cox.net>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >     Tapping the wisdom of the LUG:  I would like to start making my 
own
    > >     paper profiles for b&w on Epson printers.  B&H has the X-Rite 
kit on
    > >     sale for $389.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > 
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1369004-REG/x_rite_eostudio_i1studio.html
    > >
    > >     Will this be a good solution?  Now I am using the Spyder 3 Pro 
for
    > >     monitors, and the factory profiles for papers (Hahnemuelle, Epson
    > > etc.)
    > >     This is with soft-proofing the paper profiles then adjusting if
    > >     necessary.  Most of the time the prints are good...but I would 
like
    > > them
    > >     to be better.  Previously I have used ImagePrint with good 
results,
    > > but
    > >     dang it is expensive to keep upgrading for a hobbyist.
    > >
    > >     Ken
    > >
    > >
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