[Leica] Leica R system

[john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)]

I think your Mamiya 645 price will increase slightly once you add a digital 
back ;-) IMO neither of those have really stand-out lenses, mostly existing 
on film era designs. Hasselblad H lenses rely on a lot of in-camera 
processing and are not up to Leica S standard, 100mm f2.2 and 300mm are only 
ones of interest (or a cheaper way to get leaf flash sync).

With the Mamiya you can use the same back on it and a technical camera, not 
so with Leica S. However the Leica is perfectly aligned (no removable back) 
and weather sealed with rather good lenses, my M asph lenses cannot compete! 
Also 3:2 ratio rather than 4:3 or thereabouts.

A good digital camera/lens will out resolve film medium format, but (IMO) 
need 16bit and a larger sensor to match tonality.....

john 
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I do think a person who didn't do any medium format film shooting a few
years back is not likely to be interested in getting into medium format
digital shooting now even if the ante wasn't up.

By the way
Mamiya 645DF+ Medium Format DSLR Camera Kit with 80mm f/2.8 LS D Lens
$4,495.00

Pentax 645D Digital SLR Camera (Body Only)
$6,996.95

These are the prices of high end 24x36mm format DSLR's:
A Nikon D3x is $6,999.00 and a  Canon EOS-1D X  is $6,799.00

So it is possible to get into medium format digital without having to trade
in one of our BMW's.

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


On 4/8/14 6:14 AM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Frank Filippone wrote:

[Re: Leica S]
>Everyone wants to talk about the
> quality aspects, but the real question is
>if the quality improvement ( if
> there is one) is required in the market....

There's also the flexibility of
> using lens shutters and focal-plane shutters

>I still believe the biggest
> user of the D-MF stuff is well healed
>amateurs...... because the improved
> quality ( if there is one) is not
>required by pros, in general.

Most users
> of any camera system are amateurs, and whether the pro can take advantage 
> of
> the image quality depends on the market s/he is in.


>... The D-MF market is
> tiny and Hasselblad owns it.
>I do not see that changing.  Nor do I see Pros
> switching over to it...

Marc Williams ("fotografz") who frequently posts on
> the getdpi.com forum is one.  He looked at the S2 when it was first 
> introduced
> & at that time it hadn't ripened into a system so he passed on it? the H
> adapter got him to look again and he bought the body to use his H lenses 
> with
> either FP or lens shutter (which he could not do with his H camera), tried 
> the
> S lenses & once the lens-shutter versions became available he sold most of 
> his
> H lenses, keeping only one.


Doug Herr
Birdman of
> Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com