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Subject: [Leica] Monitor
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:02:38 +1000
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My view is the same as Tina's. The glossy screens 'look better' (in the same
way that out of camera JPEGs can vs. default Raw) because the contrast is
higher due to the glossiness and it is typically much too high for
simulating print output as well. The brightness levels are (by default) much
too high for photo editing as well. Mac don't make the displays themselves
of course.

Please note that this is not an "anti-Mac" post, no need for noses to be
discombobulated ;-) I'm sure that many people work just fine with them and
they ought to be excellent for video and many other main stream functions as
well.
This is purely about the most accurate display for photo editing for
printing and the much reduced DMax of papers that you are trying to
simulate. If your primary output is for web then of course the sums change.
Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
NO ARCHIVE


On 11 August 2010 12:50, leo wesson <leowesson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hmmm.  I've done work on a friend's imac, glossy and I have a mac book
> pro, glossy, and I have no problem with the glossiness.
>
> a friend of mine has this one, it's quite nice.
>
>
> http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Product/?product=8899a96d-28dc-484f-a4de-14309a636738
>
> not sure how it handles video.
>
> A friend of mine has a
> Leo Wesson
> Photographer/Videographer
> 817.733.9157
> www.leowesson.com
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
> wrote:
> > I think the Apples are only available in glossy screens - lots of
> complaints
> > from photographers - but it's the worst possible screen for photo work
> from
> > all reviews.
> >
> > Tina
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:35 PM, leo wesson <leowesson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> any thoughts on the new led apple monitors?
> >>
> >>
> >> Leo Wesson
> >> Photographer/Videographer
> >> 817.733.9157
> >> www.leowesson.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
> >> gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > AUD 2,100 worth of lens caps??? No way I'm selling four of them just
> to
> >> > replace my monitor.
> >> >
> >> > I lusted after the best of the Eizo range for ages but now the newest
> NEC
> >> PA
> >> > range appeal to me greatly. In some aspects actually better specced
> than
> >> the
> >> > top Eizo's and so cheap....not. Well compared to Eizo's cheap ;-).
> >> > Every time I look at my particular Dell 24 (2405FPW) now I am
> >> > disgusted. It's now calibrated again (my EyeOne died) and looks
> neutral
> >> but
> >> > the display is banded and very pedestrian. Fine for all normal
> purposes
> >> of
> >> > course, just that I would enjoy the advantages of the pro products for
> >> image
> >> > editing. By the way my Dell has no new firmware update as it's several
> >> years
> >> > old and it refuses to work with my new ATI FirePro card at all. mmmm
> 10
> >> bit
> >> > aah.
> >> > Then my Summilux 35 arrived months earlier than expected. Sigh.
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Geoff
> >> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >> >
> >> > NO ARCHIVE
> >> > On 11 August 2010 11:48, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Geoff, sell a few Leica lenscaps :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <
> hopsternew at gmail.com
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Leo depending on budget and purpose of course.
> >> >> > The Eizo range and the newer NEC PA monitors are superb.
> >> >> > NEC PA241W is da bomb! Every time I start saving up some red dotted
> >> high
> >> >> > ticket item drains my coffers
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cheers
> >> >> > Geoff
> >> >> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 11 August 2010 11:40, LeoWesson <leowesson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I smashed my big monitor on location today; need to replace it.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > What would be a good 21"-30" good monitor to buy?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Thanks!
> >> >> > > > Leo Wesson
> >> >> > > > 817.733.9157
> >> >> > > > www.leowesson.com
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
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