[Leica] M9 improvements

[henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff)]

At 2:59 AM +0000 10/31/09, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
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>All this Bitching about the M8/9 viewfinder....  It works just fine 
>as is, go out and take pictures and stop crying about the stupid vf.
>


Come on, Gene. You KNOW the bitching is more important than any 
actual photos could ever be. It also takes more skill to do it well.




:-) OK. I'm outa here.


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>Gene  -------------- Original message from Henning Wulff 
><henningw at archiphoto.com>: --------------
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>>  At 4:36 PM -0700 10/30/09, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>  >Hey, if you don't speak your mind, the status quo continues.... and God
>>  >knows, our beloved M8 cameras will be upgradeable forever......Right!
>>  >
>>  >Daniels has the company line to speak and repeat.  He does so well.  
>> Yes,
>>  >the M8/M9 are .68 VF cameras.  Does that make it a) right, b) customer
>>  >driven, c) the only choice Leica had d) my or your choice?  I don't 
>> think
>>  >there is history that says.. they could have, customers had no say, not 
>> my
>>  >choice or preference.  YMMV.
>>  >
>>  >They did not do a higher mag VF for some reason.. what that real reason 
>> is,
>>  >is Leica's secret..... and they ain;t telling us.
>>  >
>>  >What I get upset at is the incessant statement that it can not be done. 
>>  Or
>>  >that there is no one that wants a higher mag VF.,... I do.  I liked my 
>> M3
>>  >finder ... .91 and all that.  Sure, it was useless if you had a 
>>35mm lens on
>>  >( without eyes) but it was a wonderful shoot with a 50......Both eyes
>>  >open..... remember what is was like to not  get a headache if you were
>>  >following the action with your M3, with both eyes..... so that 
>>you could see
>>  >the action come into your frame?
>>  >
>>
>>
>>
>>  No. no. no. no. no. no. and no. Well, maybe for you.
>>
>>
>>  A .55, so I can see the 28 frames clearly with glasses, and a .42, so
>>  I can see the 21 frames clearly with glasses.
>>
>>  I like the current M8/9 for 35's and above, but it's a bit too tight
>>  for the 35 and almost right for the 50. Maybe a 0.8.
>>
>>  But right now, if I could have one body that showed me 21mm
>>  framelines, visible with glasses and another body that had the
>>  current framelines I'd be delighted.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>  >Sure it can be done.  They already did it... the .85 and .58 M6TTL 
>> cameras
>>  >are examples.  Maybe you don't like the choices, maybe like me, the M6 
>> 28
>>  >finder is not visible with glasses in a .72 body ( not easily, at 
>> least),
>>  >maybe they did it for time to market, stubborn Germanic marketing 
>> theories,
>>  >or otherwise.
>>  >
>>  >But don't blindly say it can't be done or that they will not do it.....
>>  >Market demand focuses efforts on the "impossible" and or stubbornly
>>  >refused.....and the LUG is one way to getting the word to the uppers at
>>  >Leica that there is a marketing need that needs addressing.....
>>  >
>>  >A higher Mag Digi-M would pump demand for the longer lenses, like 
>>the135 APO
>>  >Telyt, make focusing easier and more accurate for the Nocti and 
>> Summilux 50
>>  >and 75, and Summicron 75, and 90 lenses,  all valid reasons ( the  main
>>  >reason for the .85 M6) for a higher VF mag.
>>  >
>>  >If market demand created a White M8, then market demand can create a 
>> higher
>>  >mag M8., M9, or M10.
>>  >
>>  >Whatever happens, never lose sight of the power of the consumer to get
>>  >products they want, onto the shelves....
>>  >
>>  >Speaking of which.. the M9.... No IR filter required, no smaller 
>> sensor..
>>  >all impossible, or so we were told.....
>>  >
>>  >Nonsense.  Marketing nonsense.
>>  >
>>  >Want better low light response than an M8 or M9?  Complain, incessantly.
>>  >
>>  >It will come... So will my higher mag VF.....
>>  >
>>  >Frank Filippone
>>  >red735i at earthlink.net
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Of course, there has also been "the final word" from Hans Peter Cohn (no
>>  >digital M) and Steven K. Lee (upgradeable digital M) on many issues.  
>> So if
>>  >you don't like what you hear on some issue now, wait for the next CEO.
>>  >
>>  >Dante
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Frank its been hashed over a lot elsewhere and the final word is 
>>from Stefan
>>  >Daniel.
>>  >
>>  >
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