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Subject: [Leica] Any opinions/experience with the Zeiss 4/18mm? For Nathan...
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Sat Nov 22 11:13:09 2008

Nathan,

I guess I will also give some input on this.  I took only my M8 on my recent 
3 months in Europe (and the 3 months in the US), and it worked like a charm 
no hickups at all.  As for lenses... I used my 21 Elmarit Asph (for 80% of 
the photos), with the 28 Elmarit Asph as the main WA's.  The 28 is really 
nice if you want a compact camera lens combo, and it is really sharp.  The 
21 is also a great lens but a bit large compared to other 21's, but again 
really sharp.  I also used my 50 and 90 for shooting, but not as much use as 
the WA's.

I would love to get another M8 but after buying the DMR and a 180/3.4 APO 
she has put the brick wall up to buying any more photo equipment for the 
forseeable future.  ;-)

Gene  

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Michael Hintlian <michael@hintlian.com>
>
> Nathan...
> 
> I shot an M8 for well over a year before I chose to sell it...a  
> decision I knew I would regret but for reasons of pure economics and  
> professional requirement I went with it.  The two lenses I used  
> exclusively with this camera were the 28/2 Leica and the new 21mm 4.5  
> Zeiss (for M).  The 21mm is petite and balances really well with the  
> Leica...it makes a better profile in the hand and on camera will  
> easily fit under a jacket.
> 
> The 18 is big, it throws the balance of the camera waaaay off in my  
> opinion...I played with it enough to know while a really good lens it  
> wasn't for me.  I would add in much of the conversation about 35mm  
> lens equivalents with the M8 chip needs to be taken with a grain of  
> salt.  Its only an approximation...a 21mm lens is still a 21mm even  
> though it becomes "like" a 28 on an M8.  So if 24mm is a favorite  
> focal length in 35mm, you may be happier with a 21mm vs. the 18.  On  
> the M8 the 21 gives you a bit wider than a 28 (in 35mm terms) with  
> slightly deeper perspective.  Its an amazingly good lens...as good as  
> any Leica lens I've used.  The max aperture of f4.5 is not a real  
> handicap with the availability of higher ISO's in camera.
> 
> As an editorial let me add that the M8 1250iso image quality is far  
> superior to any film, it just doesn't look like the equivalent Canon  
> camera file everyone compares the M8 to...like it or not Canon seems  
> to have become the tastemaker in this game.  To my eye the Canon files  
> look plastic and much like TV...and I'm using 5D's for all my  
> commercial work...they're amazingly good for that but less useful for  
> personal work.  Recently I traveled in Central America for a month  
> working on an immigration story, I carried only an M8 and two lenses  
> (and a Mac and 2 external h/d's in a backpack), the camera put up with  
> a lot of abuse and did not miss a beat.  It was an amazingly useful  
> companion and  I couldn't be happier with the results.
> 
> And so I too will look for the right coincidence of  income and  
> opportunity to get back into the M8 game...with what I know already  
> its an easy decision.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Michael Hintlian
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