[Leica] (sans objet)

[hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)]

Claude has said that it is not the Tele Elmar.
This morning I found my vernier calipers. The external measurement of the 
thread of my Elmar 135 1960 is 41.6mm. The larger thread
on my Tele Elmar 1965 (first version) is 38.1mm. It has a smaller thread, 
almost covered, which is 32.9mm. This fits the OTZFO and
also the adaptor 16558 that comes with the Bellows II.  I only use my 
earlier lens with the Viso and keep the Tele Elmar assembled
as a normal 135. I cannot find any more information on another variation of 
the Elmar (1960) in any of the resource books I have
(pocket book, accessory guide, Leica lens compendium or instructions for 
reproduction devices).
Claude, can you post a picture of what you have?
Henning, do you have that later Tele Elmar? The head unscrews on that one as 
well?
Michiel, what does that light baffle look like that you mention? My Tele 
Elmar has a smaller thread visible, almost covered by a
set-screwed ring. Mine is engraved with the number 50. Is this ring what you 
are talking about?
Cheers
Hoppy

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] (sans objet)

>Hi Henning,
>
>Don't mix up the Elmar and the tele-elmar.
>To mount the tele-elmar you have to pull of the lowest light baffle. 
>the large thread to the front is only used to mount the lens head in 
>the normal schnecke.
>The later tele-elmar had a different mount which i don't think can 
>unscrew the head.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Michiel Fokkema
>
>Henning Wulff wrote:
>>>  Claude, I must have sent too much information. You may like to 
>>>re-read my reply. You need the OTZFO universal focusing adaptor, 
>>>the
>>>  number is 16464 or 16465, The other adaptors screw into that one. 
>>>It does fit. I have it in front of me. I assembled it for you to
>>>  double check.
>>>  Camera body>Visoflex II or III>OTZFO>16471>16472> lens head. This 
>>>is the Leitz Wetzlar f4 135, made between 1960 and 1965. It has a
>>>  chrome body. There was a version sold as head only. I haven't 
>>>seen that. It was replace by the Tele-Elmar
>>>

No, both these lenses are Tele-Elmars. Clearly the identical optical 
construction; just when you unscrew the head of the one it has 
non-standard attachment threads and location of threads. I'll get the 
details tomorrow after I look at it again.

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