Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/25

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Subject: [Leica] 21mm Lens Questions
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Tue Sep 25 13:59:02 2007
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Slobodan
Why don't you have a talk with our friend at CameraQuest.  I bet that
Cosina could be convinced to make a faster 21 in LTM.  Or, I have
heard very good things about the original 21 Biogon converted to LTM.
Marc has one, possibly he could send you a print.  Cost would be in
the $1200 range if you didn't mind a permanent conversion to LTM.

On 9/25/07, slobodan dimitrov <s.dimitrov@charter.net> wrote:
> That 2.8cm f8 is a Zeiss Tessar, by the way.
> I personally wouldn't use it.
> I threw in the towel with the 2.8cm Hektor.
> Not my shooting style.
>
> Now if the Biogon f4.5 came in LTM mount, I'd find a way to get one
> next week.
>
> s.
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Walt Johnson wrote:
>
> > S.D.
> >
> > Clayton already let the PIG out of the bag. Next, you'll be doing
> > the same think concerning cheap lenses. How can we make great
> > "Smith-like images using substandard glass. Besides, Leica is
> > already on its last leg and needs our contributions.
> >
> > W.J.
> >
> > slobodan dimitrov wrote:
> >> Gene Smith shot with a 28mm F8 (that Schweitzer stuff) with the
> >> emulsions of his day.
> >> It didn't hurt him image wise.
> >> I use the Skopar only because of being able to use it on a IIIa.
> >> Though, I have to admit that I'm awfully tempted to get a Biogon.
> >> Maybe with the next big job...!
> >>
> >> s.d.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Don Dory wrote:
> >>
> >>> Frank,
> >>> I will echo Henning's comments.  The Biogon is a very sharp, well
> >>> built lens.  So, if you can live shooting at 4.5 then that is the
> >>> lens
> >>> to get.  If you need 2.8 then I would hunt around for used 21 ASPH
> >>> lenses.  The Zeiss 21 2.8 is very good out 1/2 way but resolution
> >>> falls off in the outer fields wide open.  By 4.5 it is good all the
> >>> way but then why not get the Biogon?
> >>>
> >>> On 9/24/07, red735i@earthlink.net <red735i@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a want for a 21mm lens.  the Leica made Elmarits ( ASPH,
> >>>> or Non ASPH) are too expensive for me.  Ditto the Super Angulons
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a 21mm finder already ( from my 16 year old Contax RF days).
> >>>>
> >>>> I am asking about these 3 lenses......
> >>>>
> >>>> 21/4.5 ZM Zeiss Biogon
> >>>> 21/2.8 ZM Zeiss Biogon
> >>>> 21mm Color Skopar.  P ( M Mount )  or Non-P, LTM
> >>>>
> >>>> I am interested in relative optical quality, and to a lesser
> >>>> extent, mechanical build quality and smoothness.
> >>>>
> >>>> For those with any relative experience to the Leica lenses,
> >>>> please comment.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note.. I have read Erwin's review on the 21/2.8.... he says good
> >>>> things.  But by comparison to the 4.5 ????
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Frank
> >>>>
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> >>>> information
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Don
> >>> don.dory@gmail.com
> >>>
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-- 
Don
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