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Subject: [Leica] M8 trials and tribulations? NOW! More techie BS!
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Sun May 6 08:44:17 2007
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WHAT THE HELL IS EXIF and why is he saying all those bads things about 
me? :-P

Ted Grant wrote:
> ROCKIN' THE BOAT! :-)
>
> OK Guys & Gals here I go again about the crucial needs for knowing this
> stuff. EXIF whatever it does in making, taking, shooting good photographs
> does?
>
> Please explain, as usual in the simplest of terms, because this EXIF isn't
> recorded does it mean the picture is lousy? However it becomes a work of 
> art
> because you know what the EXIF is?
>
> Before people get their underpants in a knot and delete the "old guy " 
> think
> about shooting film.  
>
> We never had exposure, lens, aperture data on the negative! We shot it 
> right
> or we didn't. All the details were recorded in our mind or you didn't 
> really
> give a damn. Unless it was for a specific example of handling the camera 
> and
> shutter speed for special effects.
>
> No I don't have a clue what the hell an EXIF is or does in shooting good 
> old
> fashion solid photographs. And yes up to this moment I've worked with 4
> different digital cameras, including an M8 with varying degrees of
> goodness!!! However the goodness depended on the guy holding the camera and
> had diddly squat to do with knowing an EXIF file from a wart! And all
> un-marked lenses!
>
> Or is this just another one of those digital techie things that clutters
> one's vision while trying to shoot solid photographs?
>
> Walt Johnson noted:
>   
>>>> Could working the darn camera end up as the accomplishment instead of 
>>>>         
> making images?<<<<<
>
> Walt at the rate people go on about all this techie stuff I agree with you
> whole heartedly. It has become, or seems so, operating the camera is more
> important than taking good photographs. And having to "think" all this 
> stuff
> litters the visual senses to the point where a piece of crap exposure on a
> sensor is gushed over because it has the EXIF details.
>
> So far the M8 material I've shot has been with plain old fashion M lenses
> quickly clicked into place and used without thinking about anything other
> than the visual moments before me! Dang and you know what? They look just
> fine!
>
> People can't be thinking about all this techie stuff and shooting good 
> stuff
> at the same time. Simply because "you can't think and shoot" at the same
> time! Think about it and it's over before your finger twitches!
>
> EXIF? Hell who cares, don't think and wring wrists because it is or isn't
> there unless it truly makes ones photography better than you re-act to!
>
> Me? Hell I'm just going to continue using digital the same as I've shot 
> film
> for over half a century, "see-click!" Nice picture.:-) Or, damn! Missed 
> it! 
>
> The title of the digital Power point lecture I gave last weekend to a 
> couple
> hundred shooters?  "DIGITAL. Ease up on the numbers. The Essence of
> Photography does not Change!" 
>
> KISS guys and gals that's what it's all about! :-)
>
> ted
>
>
>
>
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