[Leica] OT: There's something about German design, Now a Challenge for Marc S.

[gregj.lorenzo at shaw.ca (GREG LORENZO)]

Marc James Small writes in part:
> 
> I would suggest that you subscribe to the WWII 
> Lists or to H-War and post your suggestions 
> there.  Others more knowledgeable on modern 
> scholarship shall soon set you right.  The Allies 
> have not, to my knowledge, ever acknowledged a 
> shoot-down by an ME-262 and the modern Luftwaffe 
> concedes that the ME-262 did not score any kills 
> on Allied fighters.  

Give me your source for this? Not more nonsense, an authoritative published 
source.

> 
> See my earlier post as to what constitutes a 
> confirmed kill.  Dig around and find a single 
> confirmed kill accepted by both sides and by 
> modern scholars and I'll be delighted to hear of 
> it.  Even the noted aviation scholar William 
> Green was unable to ever confirm a single kill by 
> the ME-262 though he tried hard to do so for two decades.
> 

Source? No more pontification, source. Book, author, chapter and page?

> H-War is part of H-Net, the academic set of 
> social science lists run by the University of 
> Michigan.  

Post a link to actual sourced writings on ME-262 confirmed kills and the 
overturn of official German records by this group?
 
> Greg, you display a distressing tendency to get 
> into personal attacks.  Instead of that, I would 
> suggest that you read books written after 
> 1960. 

And you have an depressing tendency to make up history as you write.

> There is a lot available today on the 
> Eastern Front and your local library probably has 
> a few of these.  Read them and learn that were it 
> not for massive Allied supplements to the Soviet 
> war effort ("Lend Lease") they would have 
> collapsed in early 1943.  (See the old but still 
> authoritative Pogue on Marshall for 
> details.)  You might want to read a selection of 
> Colonel Glantz' works on the Eastern Front as he 
> is the scholar most highly regarded both in the 
> West and in the East.  I disagree with a few of 
> is conclusions but, all in all, I find his 
> assessment of the Soviet contribution to the 
> Allied victory in the Second World War 
> reasonable.  Again, I don't agree with all he 
> opines but the �stfront is his turf and is not mine.
> 

My personal library is considerably larger than any local library's Military 
History section. I have several of David Glantz's eastern front book. I've 
actually read them, have you? 

Now I have a challenge for you. Go to the Wikipedia page on the ME-262 and 
refute it by re-writing the "Combat" paragraph to say that Germany's ME-262 
never shot down a single allied fighter during the war (i.e. exactly what 
you've written here: 


 
Greg J. Lorenzo
Calgary, Alberta