Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/04/22

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Subject: [Leica] Re:Bye Bye Mamiya
From: jsmith342 at (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sat Apr 22 14:58:45 2006

I wasn't surprised to see Fujifilm stop producing the Texas Leicas. They
were just too damned big. And I wasn't surprised to see Bronica fold up.
They were always second fiddle to Hasselblad. Contax never really made it
big in the MF area, so their withdrawal wasn't too surprising. And Pentax is
going after the consumer digital market, so they needed to change focus. But
Mamiya was pretty much MF only, and not going after the consumer digital
market, and was pretty well entrenched in the RB67 market. To have them drop
the line was a bit saddening.

And when Rolleiflex drops the TLR line, it will be even sadder.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of B. D.
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:42 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re:Bye Bye Mamiya

Absolutely, Paul - and while you say my hobby horse is saying that the
'sun's going to explode,' I've for some time been saying 'go with what works
for you.' 

But what this particular thread started with wasn't my out of the blue
jumping on my hobby horse to announce the death of film. Rather, it was my
expressing bemusement that someone would be surprised in 2006 that a film
camera system they had just invested in had gone belly up shortly
thereafter. I don't for the life of me see how that could surprise anyone.
Sadden, of course. Disappoint, certainly. But not surprise.

On 4/22/06 5:24 PM, "PHC" <> wrote:

> I don't really understand your point here BD. Are you saying that all 
> film apart from large format will become unavailable, but not for a 
> long time?
> Sounds like my teacher telling me that the Sun is going to explode and 
> take the Earth with it - but not for a few million years.
> This does seem to be a huge hobby-horse for you. There are millions of 
> people taking pictures on 35mm black and white film all over the 
> world, and there will be long after I'm dead and gone. What's the 
> problem?
> Digital's great, so is film. You pay your money and you take your 
> choice.
> P.
> *******
> Paul Hardy Carter
> +44 (0)20 7871 7553
> *******
> On 22 Apr 2006, at 17:25, B. D. Colen wrote:
>> Time for a reality check - ANY film system anyone gets into now is on 
>> borrowed time, including - yes, it's true - Leica film. (Actually, 
>> there's probably one exception to this, and that's large format, 
>> which has really
>> survived as an art tool, and will probably continue to survive for that
>> reason. ) While there will continue to be film cameras and film
>> available
>> for a long time, and parts will probably be available for the likes of
>> Leica
>> for years to come, we are at the end of an era.
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