[Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!

[buzz.hausner at verizon.net (Buzz Hausner)]

Exactly!  The Noctilux is not an instrument to be taken...er...lightly.
In the right hands...Tina's, Ted's and Sandy's, for instance...it can be
a mighty tool.  Merely using a Noctilux does not grant one the ability
to take pictures like Ted, Tina and Sandy who bring years of experience
and knowledge, and no small measure of talent to their endeavors.

        Buzz

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of B. D. Colen
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 12:26 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!

The point, Buzz, is that Tina is very effectively using the lens for its
intended purpose. And it is quite effective when used that way. :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Buzz Hausner
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 9:07 AM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: [Leica] Yeah, But Tina Really Knows What She's Doing!


However, Tina, you really know how to use the Noctilux.  I notice that
nearly all of your backgrounds are very plain and not very deep, so the
vertiginous Noctilux bokeh doesn't develop.  Also, these pictures do not
have significant foreground to blur out.  In one case you have a
relatively deep background, but it is very dark.  The one exception is
the photograph of Senor Lopez fanning himself with his hat; here the
deeper background outside the barn door does exhibit the Noctilux bokeh
that some among us find quite objectionable.

The lesson I draw is that a good photographer who knows what she's doing
will use the Noctilux to fine effect.  I only wish that I and more of us
had some small portion of Tina's talent, ability and experience.

        Buzz Hausner


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+buzz.hausner=verizon.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of Tina Manley
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 10:42 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux defence - How dare you, B.D.!!

At 04:32 PM 6/26/2004 -0400, you wrote:

>In a message dated 6/26/04 12:24:10 PM, bdcolen@earthlink.net writes:
>
><< But as I've also  said repeatedly, it's just my opinion - and I'm as

>entitled to express it as all the folks who eeaxpress their opinion
that
>the Noctilux is the greatest piece of optical glass in which they've 
>ever invested. (And believe me, reading that over and over - and
looking
>at uninspiring snapshots taken with the $2500 lens, is a boring to me
as
>my comments are to them. ;-) )
>
>B. D. >>

B.D. -

I love my Noctilux and you will have to pry it from my cold, dead 
hands!   Do you see nausea bokeh or boredom in content of these Noctilux

photos? (actually, boredom in the content would hardly be the fault of
the 
lens!)

http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/maria.htm

http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/weldi.htm

http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/ordinand.htm

http://main.nc.us/openstudio/tinamanley/Honduras/amilcar.htm

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-29684.html

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-51157.html

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-51159.html

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60370.html

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60372.html

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60387.html

http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-60410.html

And many, many more!  They are all made with the Noctilux and could not 
have been made with any other lens!  I am not a Leica do-or-die fan and 
hate their current association with fancy name-brand purses and scarves,

but they made a killer of a low-light lens that nobody else has even
begun 
to equal.  When it comes to taking photos in the dark, nothing else
comes 
close to a Noctilux.  I would never use it stopped down in broad
daylight, 
but that is not its purpose.  If you can see the bokeh, you should not
be 
using the Noctilux!!

Tina

Tina Manley, ASMP