Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/05/09

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Epson 2000P, An update and another ?
From: Darrell Jennings <darrell_jennings@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 08:05:11 -0700 (PDT)

Based on the press announcement yesterday about the
2200P (which interestingly is NOT on the Epson web
site, but is on business wire) I have cancelled my
2000P order.  The retailer I spoke with (this was all
on the phone) said that the 2200P would not be
available for a few months.  BUT for a printer that is
supposed to be significantly better at black and
white, and is $200 cheaper than it's predecessor, it's
a no brainer to wait. 

A question for all.  Does anyone other than Epson make
a high quality archival printer for under $2000 that
makes prints of at least 11X14? 

- --- S Dimitrov <sld@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Epson is literally a few exits off the FWY from me
> in Long Beach, CA.
> One day, on the way back to the house I decided to
> drop in, mid
> afternoon, to see their product samples and talk to
> a product person. I
> was essentially told to take a walk. No showroom, no
> one is ever
> available for a drop-in, and no literature. I was
> told to see a
> distributor for a demonstration. That's easier said
> and done in Southern
> California where the sales staffs known little to
> next to nothing, other
> than pressing the button on the Epson for a "demo."
> After that misstep,
> I'm hesitating about getting an Epson. The comments
> on the LUG are not
> making the decision any easier.
> Slobodan Dimitrov
> 
> 
> Jeffery Smith wrote:
> > 
> > I had problems with my first Epson 2000P as well.
> The printer I ordered from Adorama was DOA. I called
> Epson, and they told me that I was probably doing
> something wrong. They gave me a list of insultingly
> moronic suggestions (is it plugged in? did you
> install the ink cartridges?). I went back and forth
> with them for over a week when they told me that
> they would swap it out for a faculty refurbished
> printer. If I wanted a new one to replace my new
> one, I would have to get it from Adorama. I called
> Adorama, who told me that I passed the brief return
> period (they start counting days from the day you
> order it, not the day you get it. It took over a
> week to deliver the printer to me, Epson futzed with
> me for a week, so my return period was over. I
> finally took it to a local electronics servicing
> firm doing Epson work, they sent it back to Epson,
> and Epson sent me a factory refurbished printer.
> Neat, huh?
> > 
> > I like the Epson 2000P, but will probably never
> buy another Epson product as long as I live. The
> competition is just too keen to justify buying
> something from a company with such poor standards.
> > 
> > > My third printer worked like a charm too. My
> first two were
> > > non-functional. Epson took good care of me
> though.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Greg J. Lorenzo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Darrell,
> > > >
> > > > Funny you should ask.... I hope you're sitting
> down.
> > > >
> > > > I purchased my first 2000P in mid January
> 2002. I brought it home,
> > > > read the instructions, installed the ink
> cartridges and it immediately
> > > > died. Contacted Epson Tech Support who offered
> to replace it with a
> > > > refurbished 2000P. I declined and exchanged it
> at the store for a new
> > > > in box 2000P.
> > > >
> > > > Printer 2 worked just fine up to about a month
> ago other than being
> > > > rather thirsty for ink. Last week I finally
> had some time to catch up
> > > > on some color printing, ran some prints only
> to have every print come
> > > > out in varying shades of purple (for all
> colors). Contacted Epson
> > > > Support on Wednesday who requested that I
> replace the ink cartridges
> > > > and run the nozzle cleaning process over a
> dozen times. Result: all
> > > > prints still came out purple.
> > > >
> > > > Called Epson Support back on Thursday, they
> sent out a new printer
> > > > which arrived Monday. New printer (number 3
> now) arrived NIB but was
> > > > DOA. The print heads would not come over far
> enough to allow
> > > > installation of the ink cartridges. I again
> called Epson Support who
> > > > over-nighted me printer number four yesterday.
> > > >
> > > > Printer number four works great with no
> problems so far. Best color
> > > > printer for under $2000 when it works. Stinks
> in B&W but I prefer the
> > > > wet darkroom for B&W.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck and I hope you paid with your credit
> card.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > > Darrell Jennings wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I just ordered an Epson 2000P archival
> printer today. Anyone out
> > > >> there have any experience, tips, problems,
> > > >> cool features, etc. that I should know about?
> > > >>
> > > >>
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