Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/10/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The difference between a killer printer, for example, Charles Cramer, Ctein, etc. and a "oh I am a photographer and also print my stuff" like myself, is night and day. Same base image, outrageously different output. On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>wrote: > Correction (white out) > The whole ideal of "craft" or how good a printer he might be was NOT in the > equation. > > > > "Appropriately" for WHAT is the center of the issue and someone who's > > showing their prints to a gallery owner or having a show in that gallery > is > > not going to go to Costco to have their prints done. The very idea of it > is > > comical. Its like a one liner. > > Yes the way many people print on their printers now rivals machine prints > > with the profiles. > > Digital does change a few things. > > I was at Calumet this week and a guy was showing his prints off this > laptop > > to the head guy they have a large gallery upstairs. It looked like he'd > > gotten the show and the basis of his jpegs on his laptop and was being > > explained the details of publicity and so on. > > The whole ideal of "craft" or how good a printer he might be was in the > > equation. That's because we're all using the same profiles and > > Spiders I guess. > > I think there are a few people out there who just like they'd done in the > > darkroom go back and forth with their prints critically not already > working > > on the next one before the previous one is out of the machine. > > I used to take more responsibly for Xerox copies than people do now with > > their inkjets. > > There was a "sharpness" button on the schools Xerox. You had to decide if > > you were going to press it or not. And it made a big difference and > you'd > > not want to press it if it didn't need it. > > -- > > Mark R. > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > > >> From: Adam Bridge <abridge at mac.com> > >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:38:07 -0700 > >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] How low does pigment go? > >> > >> Well, don't be so snarky about Costco, Mark. Yeah, they're big and so > they > >> can't do anything good. > >> > >> BUT, Costco does color-profile and you can go on-line to find your local > >> store > >> and determine which printing technologies they offer and which papers so > you > >> can prepare your images appropriately. > >> > >> Here's a link: > >> > >> <http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/> > >> > >> I recently went to an exhibition at the US Bicycle Hall of Fame where > all the > >> images were printed by (gasp) Costco . . . and they looked damn good. I > was > >> quite surprised when I learned where they were printed. > >> > >> Adam > >> > >> On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> > >>> Adorama is a camera store. > >>> Costco is a mega store or some kind. > >>> > >>> If the yellow pages still existed they'd not be in the same section > with > >>> Custom Printers. Those are people who work in a small place that does > mainly > >>> that. Often just one person who does mainly that. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Mark R. > >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >>> > >>> > >>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:03:40 -0700 > >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How low does pigment go? > >>>> > >>>> Yes, I should have said, "..like Adorama or other similar outfit." > Heck, I > >>>> know some people who rely on Costco!!! > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Shutterfly does a pretty nice job too. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>