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Subject: [Leica] was software licensing, now Leica S R strategy
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun Oct 19 15:05:10 2008
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On Oct 19, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Philippe AMARD wrote:

> Agreed Steve!
>
> BTW
> who and where are the next
> buyers
> users
> advocates?
> They are N or C buyers, users, and probably advocates by now.
>
> Sometimes I wish Leica, well someone, came up with just a plain  
> digital back for the R4-7, a not very elaborate thing, just a film  
> replacement, full frame and clean up to ISO 600.
> Better? a DMR II for the R8-9. Full frame, and that would do the  
> trick.
> I don't need to wait until they're ready to produce a state of art  
> out of reach R10 in the year when I have neither DM, Shillings or  
> Euros, nor teeth left either.
> I'm using an L1 in the meantime; for how long before I get an N ???


I agree,

I think their strategy will guarantee that many of us will fully  
commit to other, by the time they produce the million dollar baby.

> Steve
>
> Phx
>
>
>
> Steve Barbour wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Lottermoser George wrote:
>>
>>> I find it difficult to understand,
>>> given that you have an M8
>>> current and vintage Leica lenses
>>> all of which have been
>>> at the top of their quality and price class,
>>> how Leica strategy,
>>> essentially the same as it has always been,
>>> will have nothing to do with you.
>>
>>
>> it's simply that this is their slr strategy George...(I use  
>> R's...was  waiting for the R digital)
>>
>> as it's their ultimate R plan, and includes the realistic  
>> expectation  that it will take a couple more years, and the end  
>> result will be most  likely untouchable financially ...
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>> I can understand that,
>>> if you've made the decision
>>> to simply use what you have
>>> for the rest of your natural life.
>>> If that is the case
>>> what conceivable Leica strategy
>>> would feel inclusive to you?
>>>
>>> However, others, who have yet to decide
>>> to move, seriously, into photography
>>> (as we all did at some point)
>>> will choose the highest quality, for their needs
>>> whatever system that may mean;
>>> including, possibly, Leica M, R or S systems.
>>>
>>> Fond regards,
>>> George
>>>
>>> george@imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>>
>>>> But regarding equipment, as stated, I am sad that the strategy  
>>>> that  Leica is following will have nothing to do with me. While  
>>>> it may  work, it is very risky, especially in this tough  
>>>> international  economic climate, and it may well be a rocky road  
>>>> to disaster for  the company.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that the S system, and quite possibly the R system  
>>>> too,  will be too rich for me,  perhaps for many of us...
>>>>
>>>> so I find it prohibitive, even nonsensical, and the world  
>>>> financial  realities won't help it...
>>>
>>>
>>>
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