Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/25

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Subject: [Leica] R lens comparison
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Tue Sep 25 17:41:35 2007

My 24 mm says "Made In Germany",  On the front it says Leitz Wetzlar.  Great 
lens in my book.

Gene

-------------- Original message from Tom Schofield 
<tomschofield@comcast.net>: -------------- 


> Just to add a few more split hairs, I understood the 16 and 24mm 
> lenses were a Minolta design, not made by Minolta. Any owners out 
> there who can read the "Made In ___" script? 
> 
> Tom 
> 
> 
> On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:51 AM, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote: 
> 
> > Mark, 
> > 
> > I know only one made by Sigma, the 28~70 Vario Elmar R. I have a 
> > copy, decent optics, but poor mechanicals, as my early copy has 
> > gotten sloppy over the years. There was a rumor that Zeiss took 
> > over this one when they updated it, but not sure if true. 
> > 
> > Minlota made the early zooms, and at least one WA, the 24 Elmarit 
> > R. Which by the way is the same lens currently on the books, 
> > although Leica has been making it for sometime, and several of the 
> > elements have been replaced by newer glasses, due to older glass 
> > being no longer made. I have one of these and it performs 
> > exceptionaly well. I had heard at one time, that Minolta only 
> > provided the glass, and Leica did all the assembly from the very 
> > beginning. Can't verify this, just what I had heard. 
> > 
> > You forgot Kyocera, who makes/made the 80 ~ 200 f4 Vario Elmar R. 
> > This lens is exceptional in performance. I guess Leica is making 
> > this one now, since Kyocera has gotten out of the optics business. 
> > Don't know if they made any other lenses though, Doug? 
> > 
> > Gene 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message from Mark Rabiner 
> > : -------------- 
> > 
> > 
> >>> Jack, 
> >>> 
> >>> Part of the reason for the lower prices of R lenses, is that over 
> >>> the years, 
> >>> the R line has been somewhat of the Black Sheep or Unwanted 
> >>> Cousin to the M 
> >>> line. Unfortunate for the popularity of the R system, but great 
> >>> for those of 
> >>> us who use it when it comes to used lens prices. 
> >>> 
> >>> Gene 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I think this is totally wrong and its my understanding that there 
> >> have been 
> >> extended times that the R system supported the M system and that only 
> >> recently has the M line swung back. 
> >> The R8 and 9 are brilliant cameras. 
> >> Innovative. 
> >> Not boring. 
> >> I want one. 
> >> But need one which shoots digital film. 
> >> I think there will be one very very soon. 
> >> Like tomorrow. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> There are categories of R glass. 
> >> Some made by Minolta. Not too noteworthy. 
> >> Some made by Sigma. Not too noteworthy. 
> >> Some made or designed by Schneider-Kreuznach. 
> >> Real mouth watering in my opinion. 
> >> And some made by Leica. 
> >> Usually very Leica like. 
> >> considering 
> >> 
> >> Mark William Rabiner 
> >> rabinergroup.com 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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